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Old 04-22-2009, 07:55 PM   #1
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Default 17-year-olds to be allowed morning-after pill

But DO NOT allow them a beer, a smoke, a chew, a handgun, a car rental, texting naked pictures of themselves or sending them in an email and a whole bunch of other things and at 17 the parents are still legally responsible for everything you do ......

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"Plan B is a high dose of birth control pills. ... The FDA violated its standards when it made the high-dose Plan B available nonprescription to adults. But now the FDA is making the drug available to minors without parental consent," the Concerned Women for America, a Washington-based conservative Christian group, said Wednesday.


"Parents should be furious that the FDA is putting their minor daughters at risk," the group said.


What about states that 18 is the legal age of consent? I assume each prescription comes with an inquiry into how the girl was raped and charges will be made?

I am not totally against the drug, I'll look it up again in the morning and see just how bad it is to a young woman's health. But to allow it when so many other things are not ?


c'mon - CRAZY that is
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:24 AM   #2
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The teen unwed pregnancy rate is very high in the US. From what I understand the morning after pill prevents conception and is not an abortion pill. If that iscorrect I think it is a good idea to make something like thatlegal for anyone who is able to buy conventional contraception methods. I don't think it should be used as a main form of birth control since it does nothing to prevent STD's. If it kills the fertilized egg then I am against it except for extreme circumstances like rape.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:09 AM   #3
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But to allow it when so many other things are not ?
Again and again the staunchest opponents of abortion are the staunchest opponents of that which could prevent abortion.

No wonder the left is in power and drunk on it too.

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Old 04-23-2009, 06:12 AM   #4
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Again and again the staunchest opponents of abortion are the staunchest opponents of that which could prevent abortion.
so you're suggesting having this plan B available to young girls (can't clal them women, can we?) will prevent abortions?

you are suggesting that without this, each pregnancy not prevented would result in an abortion?

you're saying that having the parents removed from the equation is a good idea?

you're saying you don't mind banning young girls from all the things I listed ......... because they're arent capable of handling it ....... but they CAN handle this?




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The UK's Committee on Safety of Medicines recently found 12 ectopic pregnancies out of 201 pregnancies following use of the drug


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A Swedish study published in 2002 reported that STIs were on the rise among adolescents who had OTC access to emergency contraception and other forms of contraception


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Groups opposing OTC status include the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists and Concerned Women for America, a public policy organization. Since birth control pills, which contain lower doses of progestin, are available only by prescription, said Wendy Wright, senior policy director of Concerned Women for America, "it's crazy that we're even discussing that the high dose of the drug be available without a prescription."






Does that bother you any VC? I can bring up articles and quotes and stats all day long with the potential dangers of this - for women legally allowed to make the decisions by themselves, its their choice. But for girls that still have parental responsibility?

C'mon VC, you can't believe in removing the parents from this can you?

Seriously?


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Old 04-23-2009, 06:20 AM   #5
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let me also add that even IF plan B lowered the number of abortions, and we can't say for sure that it does, what is involved in doing that and the dangers involved ......... can we really justify the end results by those means?

if my daughter came to me and said she'd had unprotected sex, if she'd been raped, I cannot tell you what I would do. I CAN tell you I wouldn't rush rush and make a hasty decision to pump her full of high doses of synthetic hormones - and without her mother and I to guide her in that decision making which is what this pandora's box open is ............. I just despise the parents being removed and OTC availability
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:54 AM   #6
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Ectopic pregnancies occur with about two percent of all pregnancies in general. A study that shows a 6 percent frequency of such pregnancies within a small sample of women is not too convincing. I would think the issue would be whethera 17 year old girl who does not want a pregnancy would be comfortable with those odds; Especially since miscarriages (with potentially worsecomplications)occur at much higher frequencies than the risks associated with morning after pills.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:02 AM   #7
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Lanse couche coucherisk is risk, I've read ectopic is less than 1% of all pregnancies, which would mean according to these loose stats 6X greater risk involved

but again, its more about parental involvement which is already so lacking in today's world. And why age 17? why not 16? 14? 10?

some states age of consent is 17, some states 18 ...... any girl getting the plan B in some states would automatically be saying she was legally raped because of age of consent



and like that one person said, birth control of far less dosages hormones are prescription only - why is this far heavier dosage allow non?
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The increase in risk of ectopic pregnancyremains far less than the risk of miscarriage and/or othercomplications from trying to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. The latter occurs around 20 percent of the time. So, yes, risk is risk, but some things are more risky than others.

Keep in mind that the morning after pill is only taken on a single occasion. So, it makes sense that there would be less concern about a single dosage compared to the pill which is taken on a daily basis for years at a time. I would assume that the higher liklihood of complications occurring would be in instances when someone attempts to use the drug on repeated occasions as a form of birth control rather than a one time worse case scenario drug.
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It is my opinion that if the parent is legally responsible for the actions of the child until the age of 18 then it is the parents authority to say whether or not the girl can take plan B. Not the governments. This goes along with the childs bill of rights that is being pushed by the UN. Utter BS. On the other side of that coin though, if parents had been doing their job of being a parent and not relying on the schools and other institutions to raise their kids and teach them right from wrong maybe this mess wouldn't even be an issue.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:03 AM   #10
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Lanse couche couche so slamming 25 beers is less risky than drinking 1 per day? Doing a 8 grams of coke is less risky than 1/8 a day? binge eating is less dangerous than normal eating?

I mean, can you name anything taken in large quantities that isn't more dangerous than a little bit every day?

and I don't follow your attempt at reason either ....... miscarriages are normal, they are natural. A high dosage of synthetic hormones isn't - and again you aren't addressing the removal of the parents, or why 17 was chosen etc
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