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Old 04-04-2009, 10:26 AM   #1
 
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This should dispell the false propogandasaid in this forum a month ago.


http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/145/story/410108.html
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:51 AM   #2
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That's just BS! We didn't pull out of the depression in any meaningful way until WWII, more than ten years after the new deal. Also, nobody says the stimulus won't do ANY good, just that it will do little good. The key point is that it will cost $trillions. Why does that article make ZERO mention of the COST in proclaiming it is worthwhile? Doesn't it make sense to look at cost and benefit, and not just benefit, which itself is questionable in terms of how muchwe can expect to get out of it? If we spend trillions of dollars in cost, and only get billions of benefit, it is a net loss our grandkids will suffer for. And if the benefit is GOVERNMENT jobs, well, that increases the baseline EXPENSES going forward, adding yet more cost to the national debt.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:56 AM   #3
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Do you know how many people were put back to work because of the New Deal? 100,000. How many people were unemployed? Millions.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:08 AM   #4
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Lets see, that was written by a liberal history professor in Ohio. DougMD is telling it straight. That is a bunch of BS. It wasn't the stimulative effect of all the spending of the "New Deal" that solved our economic problems in those years. It was the stimulative effect of World War ll that did that. Every available worker went to work and every available factory was going full tilt to manufacture the materials needed by a military involved in a global war.
You want stimulation? Use Iraq for the forward base of operations that it already is and invade Iran. If we don't, there will be nothing but trouble down the road. If world War ll taught us anything, (it certainly didn't teach the cowardly Europeans anything)....it is this: Deal with despots and tyrants early beore they garner allegiances, money, and military might. There isa huge difference between Obama and FDR. Obama is a talker. FDR was a doer. There's just no comparison.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:32 AM   #5
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Not many people know that there is a history on the study of history. Kind of dull but it does lay out some important ground rules. Knowing them is helpful in categorizing an account as unbiased or not among other things.

If you read it I'm glad, but don't stop there. It is an event that many have weighed in on and reading as many as you can is very fruitful if, if, if getting the truth is the objective.

Claiming the absolute based on one historian is a violation of one of the basic rules. Your own history here is another. More than one side to a story is a third. Overall a desire for all people to live full lives, even those who persecute you is in my O, the greatest attribute of a real historian.
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Time will tell but IMO everything osama is doing now will at best, postpone the big crash for a few years. Give him a chance to really dig us in deep.[:@]
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:27 PM   #7
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Obama's new deal is only going to destroy the constitutional rights of every US citizen, spend, spend, and spend some more. Exactly how many of the three million jobs that he promised has been created. Funny every month the unemployment rate keeps climbing higher. Are that banks lending again, NO. So tell me exactly what has Obama's new deal done? To date spend over 1 trillion dollars and hasn't done anything that wouldn't have happened on it's own if your daddy Obamy would have just kept his mouth shut and let the markets stabilize on their own. Oh he did do one thing, he tripled the size of the Americorps which some would say are going to be his own personal SS. Oh yeh, he also insulted the American people to the very people who should be thanking us for not having to be speaking german for the last 60 years.
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To give an example of how God awful the article is, how about this? I have a weekend long party in my backyard in July. It's hot as heck outside (96 degrees), so I decide to run my AC full blast, open all windows to my backyard and put fans blowing cold air out into the backyard. It reduces the temperature in the backyard from 96 degrees to 95 degrees. But I get my electric bill and find it to be VERY high. Did it help? Yes. Was it worth the COST. H&ll no! The article said NOTHING about the cost and its impact, and whether the good from spending WAS WORTH IT. It only tries to argue that spending does help.
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To give an example of how God awful the article is, how about this? I have a weekend long party in my backyard in July. It's hot as heck outside (96 degrees), so I decide to run my AC full blast, open all windows to my backyard and put fans blowing cold air out into the backyard. It reduces the temperature in the backyard from 96 degrees to 95 degrees. But I get my electric bill and find it to be VERY high. Did it help? Yes. Was it worth the COST. H&ll no! The article said NOTHING about the cost and its impact, and whether the good from spending WAS WORTH IT. It only tries to argue that spending does help.








I can understand its hard to read without seeing the truth of it. I think it explains very well the benefits and great accomplishments made. As you also read, both Republicans and Democrats agreed that ifluencing the economy and having a saftey net in agreement. Not to mention SS,FDIC,SEC and on and on and on.
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All you are saying is the benefits without the costs. And you ignore the fact that economies expand and contract on their own without government intervention, meaning many of those benefits would have been realized anyway, WITHOUT government interference.In fact, government spendinghas served only to delay, and makeworse, the economy rather than simply relieve recessions.Republicans have only become a lesser evil to democrats in recent years, because they know that without freebies promised to the sheeple who have come to expect handouts, they won't get elected. Republicans today are NOT the republicans of '94 who forced Clinton to reform welfare and were MUCH more fiscally conservative than now. Bear in mind that, though Bush's low approval rating was touted by democrats as a public to the left of him, it was also due to many true fiscal conservatives who knew he was way too liberal on spending and controlling illegal immigration.
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