History is being made. We are seeing the largest and most vulgar expansion of government in American history and we are seeing it take place at hyper speed. I heard last night that the spending proposed by Obama is greater than that of all presidents from Washington through Bush...combined!
While our friend Rainmaker and those like him can dismiss all of this by simply blaming Bush, the day of reckoning will come. There is a price to pay for this type of reckless spending with money we do not have. We will grow weaker and far more vulnerable economically.
What amazes me is how flippanlty these people can excuse all this madness.
I had hoped to be able to try to support Obama as our president. I had hoped that he had meant at least some of the things he said during the long campaign. I cannot support this train wreck. Bush made me sick, but this guy scares me. He is, in my opinion, the worst kind of loose cannon...the kind with Congress 100% behind him in concert with an American media that seems to just swoon no matter what he says or does. Almost no one challenges his wild spending plans. He is hardly questioned at all.
We have dark days ahead. We will all pay for this recklessness...and then our children and their children will get their turn to do the same.
I agree History is being made, I hope it beats the near past History.
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While our friend Rainmaker and those like him can dismiss all of this by simply blaming Bush, the day of reckoning will come. There is a price to pay for this type of reckless spending with money we do not have. We will grow weaker and far more vulnerable economically.
No I don't dismiss this, although you seem to dismiss the fact that the money had to be spent on account of what Bush and company did. Blame is laid where blame is due. The deppression that "would have been" is now turned around to a fair chance of recovery.
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What amazes me is how flippanlty these people can excuse all this madness.
As you know, things in this country were getting so wackedwith the Republicans in charge, on all fronts, that the American people as a whole would gladly try alittle madness to escape the "MADNESS" that we had.
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Almost no one challenges his wild spending plans. He is hardly questioned at all.
That again proves how fed up the majority of the American people are. The Republicans have again voted NO 100% for any type of Recovery, proving their agenda. They finally came up with a self centered somewhat of a plan, that a third of their own party were against. The party of NO will not save our economy, Americans and people abroad have decided that to be true.
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We have dark days ahead. We will all pay for this recklessness...and then our children and their children will get their turn to do the same.
Not according to Obama, and many economist also, and other countries don't buy into your theory. Although if you are correct, then you surely will not allow these Republicans back into power to continue their fleecing of our securities.
I had hoped to be able to try to support Obama as our president. I had hoped that he had meant at least some of the things he said during the long campaign. I cannot support this train wreck. Bush made me sick, but this guy scares me. He is, in my opinion, the worst kind of loose cannon...the kind with Congress 100% behind him in concert with an American media that seems to just swoon no matter what he says or does. Almost no one challenges his wild spending plans. He is hardly questioned at all.
We have dark days ahead. We will all pay for this recklessness...and then our children and their children will get their turn to do the same.
VC, truer words have never been written. Only those lacking in wisdom can object to what you have said.
Like you, I had hoped that Obama would be successful in fixing some things that have broken down in America. However, he has already proven himself unworthy. In the name of stimulus, he has fulfilled the long unfulfilled dreams and wishes of every left wing nut case. Every day this man's lack of experience and wisdom manifests itself to a greater degree.
In this morning's news, I watched as Mr. Obama told the Europeans of the arrogance of America. I was appalled and ashamed of him. He is becoming our national disgrace. More and more often, he puts his feet into his mouth.
You wrote of the dark days ahead for all of us. I agree, they will come. However, I have faith and confidence in the American people. They will eventually see this charlatan for what he truly is and they will rectify their mistake at the polls. I do not believe that Obama will be given a second term. He has already proven himself to be less of a president than Jimmy Carter. I predict that the Democratic Party will lose the senate in the next election. That should go a long way in curbing the abuse of power that has already been evidenced by Obama.
If Obama is not relieved of his duties in the next election, America will indeed become an economic train wreck. It will also lose its power and influence militarily. History has proven that when a vacuum exists, something or someone always rushes in to fill it. It certainly is frightening to hear other nations begin to doubt the viablity of our currency and to suggest that a world currency might be an answer.
Bush certainly made a mess, but Obama will leave chaos in his wake.
As long as any government carries a deficit from term to term, through one administration to the next, the GOP will always be responsible in the eyes of the people...to constantly borrow on the future is insane...dig a hole, jump inand just cover oneself up.[8D]
I am watching Obama speak at the NATO Summit, he says primary reason for troops in afghanistan is to root out al qaeda and defeat them...I guess he forgot about the Taliban or are the Taliban the new allies??....lol
There is a black skinned man who works in my building. He's very Liberal and a Democrat supporter.
VC do you understand these people BELIEVE what they say and what is happening?
He firmly believes that an uninsured family, by whatever means they got in that situation, has every right to the same health care as I do as a working man with good, paid insurance.
He firmly believes that the Govt has a responsibility to step in and take over anytime it sees fit, be it the will of the people or not.
He firmly supports the Govt setting the pay scale for CEO's ...... and for everyone else down from that CEO position as well.
He wants to give credit to Obama for any little shred of positive news, and blame GW and Republicans for any shred of bad news.
He's anti-gun.
He's pro-abortion.
He believes that the trillion dollar spending package is going to create long term jobs and bolster this economy into what it was mid-GW term (14,000 DOW)
He like the UN and Global economy/market bed we're getting deeper into.
He doesn't want to talk about Iraq, Afghanistan or Osama Bin Laden because other than saying Obama will get us there, there is no idea HOW and no indication of WHEN.
I've blocked Rainmaker because he'll never debate or discuss, I've never seen another poster quite as numb to everything as he is and believe for the most part, that he's a young kid just wanting to make some ripples with no substance behind anything he says.
But the general Liberal minds all think the same I think.
Now, that core conservative belief that the Republicans have mooched off for the last decade or more, they've failed to deliver that which they promised, no doubt. the last 4 years of GW was bad, and so I don't think that they can "fix" anything anymore than Obama and Co can.
But I realize that and admit it - I called GW what he was and what he was doing as it unfolded.
Obamamaniacs are unable to do this. I don't know if ever the people that are married to the idealogy that Obama sold them will ever come to realize it was all a lie.
Obama is a Socialist, and he's hammering every socialist thing he can through right now as quickly as possible - and we all know how very difficult it is to reverse that which has already been done.
This country is changing. I do not believe its for the better either, and what will the results be? Who knows VC ........
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RE: RainmakerIII and company...
"no one tries to challenge his spending......."
Ill have to disagreewith that V.C.. There are many who challeng his spending, they are just labled as the problem. Or poor sports. Or sour grapes. Or ,,, I like this on, "we won, get over it". etc. etc. etc.
"Get over it". Nancy herself said that. Our future, and out kids future is nothing but a game to the Demo congress and Obama. Sad. There is a special place in hell for the likes.
FYI Obamanites
At what Obama has already spent, your grandkids will owe $.40 on every dollar they earn, to pay for it. And that is, if we stop spending right this moment.
Rainmaker
Your Ip has been looked up, we know who your real screen name is. It was fun while it lasted. The real obamanites have run with their tails tucked between their legs. The real people, who support obama, cannot even come on here and justify what is going on. Even though id love to see Wahoohunter, Arthur, and the Kid try to justify what V.C. posted, they just cant, so they wont. I think many of them, other than the kid, are suffereing buyers remorse. Too bad it is at all of our expense.
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Unintended consequences and God have one thing in common: Liberals don’t believe in either of them.
I've blocked Rainmaker because he'll never debate or discuss,
Liar Liar pants on fire. I have always been open to debate or discuss. I suspect you block me simply my post shame your beleaf. Wich means you are the one who closed debate,wich fits right in with the party of NO.
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I've never seen another poster quite as numb to everything
yes, as Pink Floyd said, "I have become comfortably numb"
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he's a young kid just wanting to make some ripples with no substance behind anything he says.
Ahhh, the memories of youth, I wish you were right on that one.
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But the general Liberal minds all think the same I think.
I disagree with that, I think there is alot of diversity in Liberal thinking, to the point that you can't label as Liberal.
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Now, that core conservative belief that the Republicans have mooched off for the last decade or more, they've failed to deliver that which they promised, no doubt. the last 4 years of GW was bad, and so I don't think that they can "fix" anything
I agree with that
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But I realize that and admit it - I called GW what he was and what he was doing as it unfolded.
You can hold Bush responsible for about one third of the deficit or one trillion dollars. Beyond that, this is oasma's baby now. Only a portion of the one third can be credited to Bush as the Demacrtas spent the money staring in 2006. Admit it or not, but those are the facts.
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Rainmaker
Your Ip has been looked up, we know who your real screen name is. It was fun while it lasted. The real obamanites have run with their tails tucked between their legs. The real people, who support obama, cannot even come on here and justify what is going on. Even though id love to see Wahoohunter, Arthur, and the Kid try to justify what V.C. posted, they just cant, so they wont.
ScreenShot.....I have never had another screen name here. It would be futile to research my ip address, wich are multible, since I have multible servers in 8 states with 30+ computersattached and shared. I will give you a hint thow, I am an American.
RainmakerIII and company...
ScreenShot.....I have never had another screen name here. It would be futile to research my ip address, wich are multible, since I have multible servers in 8 states with 30+ computersattached and shared. I will give you a hint thow, I am an American.
