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Old 04-02-2009, 06:44 AM   #1
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Report on Fox News reveal that the ATF and Secretary of State Clinton lieing to the US public when saying that 90% of the guns seized in Mexico come from the US. Mexican officials state that of 21,000 firearms seized only 11,000 were submitted for E-trace. Of those 11,000 they got hits on approx 6,000 of those 6,000 approx. 5,000 did not originate from the US. So approx. 83% of the guns E-traced that got a hit did not originate from the US. Looks like more anti gun propaganda.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:52 AM   #2
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You can't be serious!!! Democrats would NEVER lie in order to promote their anti-gun agenda!!![/SARCASM]

Here's a link to the story...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...umber-claimed/
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:01 AM   #3
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Yep not a first for her & her anti gun friends- lieing & bending the truth are a way of life & how they get ahead.

As such propaganda is used on the news its always smelling a bit like 2 week aold carp layingon the beach.

For sure no one goes to a gun show or gun shop & walks out with full auto weapons -without a whole lot of paperwork, checking, andrestrictive laws/rules & regs passed & clearedfirst by that person.
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Wouldn't you agree that ANY guns that are sold "illegally" need to be stopped?
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:03 AM   #5
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I think we can agree that cross-border smuggling of arms, drugs and people should be stopped. I hope I'm wrong, but, what I see is that your President and SOS are lying in order to lay the groundwork for bringing back a permanent AWB, and to erode 2nd Amendment rights. They are not lying in order to ramp up the securing of our Southern border.

You get all worked up about alleged Bush lies, but, you're not the least concerned that the Obama Administration is lying in order to take away your Constitutional rights?
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so what? we're a country where guns are bought/sold in large quantities - I imagine the majority of guns DO originate from here

like the majority of illegal drugs originate from Mexico - and the majority of illegal aliens it is what it is
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:05 AM   #7
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Wouldn't you agree that ANY guns that are sold "illegally" need to be stopped?
I think you need to go down to Mexico and picket against illegal firearms and work with their government to solve their problems, obviously.

What does it have to do with us???
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:12 AM   #8
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so what? we're a country where guns are bought/sold in large quantities - I imagine the majority of guns DO originate from here
Was your reply directed to me, or to rainman?

The statistics seem to show that the majority of guns DO NOT originate from here.
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I think we can agree that cross-border smuggling of arms, drugs and people should be stopped. I hope I'm wrong, but, what I see is that your President and SOS are lying in order to lay the groundwork for bringing back a permanent AWB, and to erode 2nd Amendment rights. They are not lying in order to ramp up the securing of our Southern border.

You get all worked up about alleged Bush lies, but, you're not the least concerned that the Obama Administration is lying in order to take away your Constitutional rights?







There is a difference between AWB and an SAWB, I think your just being paranoid. Also I'm not convinced by your argument thatObama has that agenda in mind.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:16 AM   #10
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I think we can agree that cross-border smuggling of arms, drugs and people should be stopped. I hope I'm wrong, but, what I see is that your President and SOS are lying in order to lay the groundwork for bringing back a permanent AWB, and to erode 2nd Amendment rights. They are not lying in order to ramp up the securing of our Southern border.

You get all worked up about alleged Bush lies, but, you're not the least concerned that the Obama Administration is lying in order to take away your Constitutional rights?







There is a difference between AWB and an SAWB, I think your just being paranoid. Also I'm not convinced by your argument thatObama has that agenda in mind.
Please clarify the difference between an "AWB" and an "SAWB".
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