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Old 02-25-2009, 09:39 AM   #1
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Maybe Obama should read this before making the public endure more hardship than they already have to go through due to the enormous gubment debt accrued.



The Plain Truth About Glorious Carbon Dioxide






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We are going to begin 2009 with a lesson about carbon dioxide (CO2).
Why do we need to know about CO2? Because the President-elect, several of his choices for environmental and energy agencies, the Supreme Court and much of the U.S. Congress has no idea what they are talking about and, worse, want to pass legislation and regulations that will further bankrupt the United States of America.
Do I have your attention now?
For the purpose of the lesson, I will be borrowing heavily from a paper on CO2 written by Robert A. Ashworth [http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com/..._Evidence.pdf]. It requires some understanding of science, but anyone with a reasonable education and common sense should be able to read it on their own. Ashworth is a chemical engineer.
Suffice it to say that if any of the nitwits babbling about CO2 and global warming ever went to any of the several dozen excellent websites that provide accurate scientific data and analysis, they would cease from their abusive manipulation of the public and perhaps find honest work.
To begin at the beginning; at the heart of the global warming hoax is the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. While it purports to represent the views of thousands of scientists, it does not. As Ashworth notes, "Most scientists do not agree with the CO2 global warming premise. In the United States 31,072 scientists, including the author, have signed a petition rejecting the Kyoto global warming agreement." An additional 1,000 scientists are being verified to be added to the list. Thousands more exist who find the assertion the CO2 will destroy the Earth totally absurd.
Here's what you need to know; if an increase in carbon dioxide (CO2) is directly related, i.e. causes changes in the Earth's temperature, there would be a direct correlation between the two. As CO2 rose, we would see a comparable rise in the Earth's temperature. This correlation does not exist.
Global warming liars, however, insist that CO2 builds up on the atmosphere over a 50 to 250 year period, but this is untrue. "Every year around April, increased CO2 absorption by plants in the Northern Hemisphere starts reducing the CO2 in the atmosphere," notes Ashworth, "and the reduction continues until around mid-to-late August when plants start to go dormant."
"It is clear that nature reacts very fast in its consumption of carbon dioxide." Farmers call this the growing season, followed by the harvest season, followed by snow and cold during which nothing grows. Modern civilization, beginning about 5,000 years ago, is predicated on the ability to provide food to both humans and livestock, all based on these obvious seasonal cycles.
The ancient Egyptians and Mayans understood the seasons, but they are apparently too difficult a concept for today's many ex-politicians, some PhD's, United Nation's flunkies, and high school teachers.
Warming and cooling cycles are well known throughout human history, reaching back to the days of ancient Rome. There were Viking settlements in Greenland because they arrived in warmer times. By 1410 the place froze up. Shakespeare lived during a Little Ice Age when the Thames would freeze too. The man-made emissions of CO2 had nothing, zero, to do with these climate events.
The IPCC, however, with its agenda to tax and control energy use that produces CO2, is not based on either the obvious or more complex science involved. Its "data" is the invention of computer models that are deliberately manipulated to produce false results which, in turn, can be announced and repeated worldwide.
In March 2008, The Heartland Institute brought together more than 500 climatologists, meteorologists, economists, and others for two days of seminars and addresses that totally destroyed the IPCC's lies. It will do so again for a second time, March 8-10 of this year in New York City. Suffice it to say that the mainstream media did it best to ridicule or ignore the event and will no doubt do so again.
Here, then, is a fundamental fact about CO2 you need to commit to memory. "Nature absorbs 98.5% of the CO2 that is emitted by nature and man." Nature is a totally self-regulating mechanism that dwarfs any mindless effort to "control" the amount of CO2 produced by coal-fired utilities, steel manufacturers, autos and trucks, and gasoline fueled lawn mowers, not to forget fireplaces where logs glow or just about any human activity you can name, including exhaling two pounds of the stuff every day!
"Further," says Ashworth, "no regulation by man is necessary because CO2 is not a pollutant; it is part of the animal-plant life cycle. Without it, life would not exist on Earth. Increased CO2 in the atmosphere increases plant growth, which is a very good thing during a period of world population growth and an increasing demand for food."
"Taxing carbon," Ashworth adds, "would do absolutely nothing to improve the climate but would be devastating hardship to the people of the world." For example, U.S. Representative John Dingell's plan to tax carbon would add 13% to the cost of electricity and 32% to the cost of gasoline; just what we need during a Recession that threatens to become a Depression.
Dr. Tim Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg, recently asked, "How many failed predictions, discredited assumptions and evidence of incorrect data are required before an idea loses credibility? CO2 is not causing warming or climate change. It is not a toxic substance or a pollutant."
It is time to rebuke everyone attempting to foist the global warming hoax and carbon taxes on the United States and the rest of the world. It is time let Congress and the White House know that Americans will not be ruled by laws that have no scientific merit.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:47 AM   #2
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Not that I believe everything I hear about "climate Change" but why do you belive this author? He's not a scientist he's a journalist, writing an opinion piece.

Alan Caruba is the founder of The National Anxiety Center, a clearinghouse for information and commentary on "scare campaigns" designed to influence public opinion and policy. Begun in 1990, the Center has attracted national attention and a vast audience for Caruba's weekly commentary, "Warning Signs", posted on the Center's Internet site, www.anxietycenter.com, and excerpted widely on other sites.
His new book, "Warning Signs" has just been published by Merril Press. It is a collection of his weekly columns of the same name. Caruba is the author of several books, a contributor to others, and widely published in consumer and trade publications over his long career.
A former fulltime journalist, Caruba is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists, as well as the American Society of Journalists and Authors, and the National Association of Science Writers. In addition, a charter member of the National Book Critics Circle, Caruba maintains www.bookviews.com, an Internet site offering news of the best new fiction and non-fiction.
These days, he writes about a broad spectrum of public issues including environmentalism, education, energy, immigration, the United Nations, and international affairs. He has authored three "pocket" guides, "The Pocket Guide to Militant Islam", "America: A Nation Without Borders", and "The United Nations Versus the United States", each available from the Internet site of The National Anxiety Center.
The CEO of The Caruba Organization (www.caruba.com), he is a veteran public relations counselor.
He can be contacted by email at acaruba@aol.com or by writing to him care of The Caruba Organization, 28 West Third Street, Suite 1321, South Orange, NJ 07079.


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Old 02-25-2009, 09:56 AM   #3
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We could not exist without Carbon dioxide. But to much of anything is not a good thing. But as far as man made global warming, i feel it is rather arrogant of us to think we yeild such power. There is a much bigger picture, that I believe, we have very little controle over.
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:01 AM   #4
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But as far as man made global warming, i feel it is rather arrogant of us to think we yeild such power.
Man can't effect nature? why did Lake Erie catch on fire years ago?
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:27 AM   #5
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We could not exist without Carbon dioxide. But to much of anything is not a good thing. But as far as man made global warming, i feel it is rather arrogant of us to think we yeild such power. There is a much bigger picture, that I believe, we have very little controle over.
Ditto.
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:32 AM   #6
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But as far as man made global warming, i feel it is rather arrogant of us to think we yeild such power.
Man can't effect nature? why did Lake Erie catch on fire years ago?
Relatively speaking, Lake Erie is pretty small...

Edit: This event might be worthy of some additional research. I've looked for a couple minutes. Appears the source was a Time Magazine article in 1969 that exaggerated the event. The fire was actually on the Cuyahuga River, which feeds Lake Erie. And, it wasn't actually the river that caught fire. It was flotsam that had accumulated under a RR trestle, that was ignited by welding sparks... Other sources suggest it was an oil slick, which could happen today, anywhere, even with our stricter environmental regulations. Appears this may have been another event misreported in the MSM and widely accepted (I believed it too...).
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But as far as man made global warming, i feel it is rather arrogant of us to think we yeild such power.
Man can't effect nature? why did Lake Erie catch on fire years ago?
True, but a lake, regardless of size, is just a spec on our hydrosphere. Our atmosphere is more dynamic than our hydrosphere, and more massive than a lake. That would be compairing apples to oranges. Kind of like saying, because a teaspoon of poision would wipe out all the fish in a fish tank, that same teaspoon of poision could wipe out the ocean. Solar cycles is a bigger factor in global warming. As well as many other factors.
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:08 AM   #8
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Kind of like saying, because a teaspoon of poision would wipe out all the fish in a fish tank, that same teaspoon of poision could wipe out the ocean.
More like saying 100 billion gallons of a poision would. Heck IBM managed to pollute a huge aquifer where I live, houses are now being bought out by them and others vented. Once again asmaller scale then polluting the earth put how many IBM's are out there dumping TCE into the earth?

Like I said I don't believe every thing I hear about global warming,but I do believe man unchecked could make the worlda wasteland.
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More than half of global warming can be directly and provably linked to water vapor in the atmosphere, should we dry up all the water sources too?
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Old 02-25-2009, 11:11 AM   #10
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My point was why should I put anymore faith in this article posted by Doug then one from al gore, neither really knows what they are talking about.
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