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Old 02-23-2009, 11:26 PM   #1
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http://www.everyonebenefits.com/12840115

Anybody know about AmeriPlan? If it's true to what it says, then I can just kick myself.[:@]
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:13 AM   #2
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what kinds of health care you got right now ?
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:23 AM   #3
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what kinds of health care you got right now ?
None right now. I lost Medi-Cal. However, I just paid for braces. It came out to be $3300. That's actually okay for Kookifornia, but I could have saved $1000.[:@]
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:21 PM   #4
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From their disclosure statement:

"The discount medical plans of AmeriPlan® offer a reduction in the cost of medical, dental, vision, pharmaceutical and chiropractic services. AmeriPlan® discount benefit programs are not insurance, nor are they an alternative to or substitution for insurance coverage. Since they are not health insurance, members must use AmeriPlan® providers and members are responsible for payment to the AmeriPlan® providers at point of service of discount healthcare fees incurred. If you currently have insurance, you should be aware that canceling that policy may make it difficult to later obtain coverage. AmeriPlan® recommends that you speak to your insurance agent or your company's insurance administrator before canceling any health insurance policy for any reason."

Obviously this is not insurance, it's a discount program, which implies that you must use theirnetwork of providers in order to enjoy the discount. You're still responsible for paying thediscounted bills, which are likely still higher than if you actually bought health or dental insurance.

Provider networks are prone to upheaval.Providers who enroll in such programs generally must accept that to make the same bottom line, they'll have to treat more patients (higher volume), which doesn't always mean the best care. The provider you see today may not accept the program tomorrow, depending upon the conditions of their enrollment.

Before you participate in such a program, it might be beneficial to obtain a provider list in your area.Check the providers out. Then make your decision. Chances are, your money is probably better spent on real health or dental insurance in the long-run.
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:29 PM   #5
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None right now. I lost Medi-Cal. However, I just paid for braces. It came out to be $3300. That's actually okay for Kookifornia, but I could have saved $1000.[:@]
Perhaps you should go to church a little more often. My church has an auction night for a charity fundraiser. A dentist every year autions off a completeplanfor braces. Valued at 6k, goes for about 2k on avg. One more example why government isn't the example.
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Obviously this is not insurance, it's a discount program, which implies that you must use theirnetwork of providers in order to enjoy the discount. You're still responsible for paying thediscounted bills, which are likely still higher than if you actually bought health or dental insurance.
Already seen the providers. I was surprised because even the private place I went to had about an $800 discount. Why can't I negotiate a price like that? More marketing horse manure. I just got a few hundred off by negotiating. The free marketing is failing when people are left in the dark about possible choices.

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Perhaps you should go to church a little more often. My church has an auction night for a charity fundraiser. A dentist every year autions off a completeplanfor braces. Valued at 6k, goes for about 2k on avg. One more example why government isn't the example.
It's all or nothing. More reason for universal health care.

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This guy is pretty dang good.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:38 AM   #7
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It's all or nothing. More reason for universal health care.
Why not? If your now able to elect your own personal set of thugs to go and shake down your neigbor because you don't have the balls to walk up to him with your hand out begging. Sure sounds easy enough. Just be ready when your neighbor that you think has deep pockets and owes you something, decides to up and move away.You'll be without again.
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