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Old 02-04-2009, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Now what are we going to get out of talks with Iran?

Iran says US must accept nuclear programme
By Roula Khalaf and Najmeh Bozorgmehr in Tehran
Published: February 4 2009 18:48 | Last updated: February 4 2009 18:48

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A senior adviser to Iran"s president says dialogue with the US will succeed only if the Obama administration accepts Tehran"s right to have a nuclear programme.
Mojtaba Samareh-Hashemi, right-hand man to Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, the fundamentalist president, said, in an interview with the Financial Times, Tehran was studying its options, just as the new US administration was reviewing its Iran policy.


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The US hopes to engage with Iran and persuade the country to halt its uranium enrichment activities, the most sensitive part of the nuclear programme, and withdraw its support for militant groups in the region.


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But Iran too has a list of demands requiring US policy shifts.
On some issues " such as the removal of US troops from Iraq and stabilising Afghanistan " Iran and the US can find common ground.
Others, particularly Iran"s claim that its nuclear programme is peaceful in nature and so advanced that it has become a fact on the ground, could prove the two sides" differences are irreconcilable.
"If [US] policies change the two nations will get closer to each other, the two governments will get closer to each other and the chances for dialogue and co-operation will succeed," said Mr Samareh.
"The policy of [George W.] Bush was to use this [the nuclear issue] as an excuse to stand up against the Iranian nation.
"For there to be change, this policy has to change." In Afghanistan, he said, Iran was expecting a more robust effort to fight opium production.
Another big concern for Tehran were US attempts to negotiate with elements of the Taliban, the radical Sunni group ousted from power and seen by Tehran as a security threat.
"When the US goes into Afghanistan under the pretext of fighting illegal groups how can it enter into negotiations with them?" said Mr Samareh.
He also pointed to the Bush administration"s support for Israel during conflicts such as the offensive in Gaza against Hamas, which is supported by Iran, and the 2006 Israeli war against Hizbollah, another Iran-backed group.
In both cases the US sought to delay the passing of a UN ceasefire resolution.
"Is the new US administration going to continue these policies? If it does, then nothing will change," he said.
While the US last week sent envoy George Mitchell to discuss Gaza with leaders in the region, including Mahmoud Abbas, head of the Palestinian Authority, which Hamas ousted from Gaza two years ago, Iran hosted Khaled Meshaal, the Hamas leader, in Tehran this week.
Nato called last week for greater efforts to involve Iran in resolving Afghan issues.
Mr Samareh shrugged off the debate in Washington over whether the Obama administration should engage with the government of Mr Ahmadi-Nejad, which could lend him credibility, or try to bypass him by seeking direct contact with the supreme leader and final decision-maker, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
"The leadership system is unified, with each one having their own responsibilities and when the government makes a decision it means it"s the decision of the whole system," he said.
He has sat down on more than one occasion with former American officials, although Mr Samareh insists that recent reports of negotiations with William Perry, former defence secretary were overblown.
Mr Samareh said he had taken part in discussions held in Europe with western experts and academics, which included Mr Perry but they were neither official, nor were they negotiating sessions.
Western officials say pressure will intensify on Tehran to compromise, as financial sanctions, designed to force Iran to suspend uranium enrichment, bite harder in a climate of lower oil prices.
Although Iranian business has suffered from the restrictions imposed by the US and the UN, record oil revenues have cushioned their impact.
Mr Samareh, however, played down the impact of sanctions, saying the financial sector"s isolation had, in effect, helped shield it from the global financial crisis.
The government was hoping to counter lower oil revenues by restructuring subsidies and curbing current expenditures, he said.
Inflation, meanwhile, which had reached more than 25 per cent, was on its way down, and housing prices were coming down, all of which was, he claimed, leading to "economic enthusiasm".

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Old 02-04-2009, 05:13 PM   #2
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Default RE: Now what are we going to get out of talks with Iran?

mostly a stab in the back after faking a nice obama hug?
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:44 PM   #3
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The US will probably get a deal something like the one that Bush made with North Korea. Whatever kind of deal is made with Iran it will not be to our benefit.

In the early 1950s Iran elected a new government ran by prime minister Mossadegh. The US did not like that Iranian government, backed an insurrection by the corrupt ShahandMossadegh was overthrown. Iranians have never forgiven the US for25 years of supporting theShah.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:47 PM   #4
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We're going to say "no" and go home. Even if it were to happen to day, we'd still garner overwhelming international support. The world doesn't want another nuclear power, especially not Iran.

We have an image problem. Frankly, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks about America and Americans, but the reality of the day is the international partnerships are in a state of post-Cold War change. As long as we maintain our own interests, I don't think we should go out of our way to make more enemies. We've blown some stuff up. Now it's time to lay low and see where things fall.

I believe we will be stronger for it.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:21 PM   #5
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Frankly, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks about America and Americans.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:32 PM   #6
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What ever deal we make with them or North Korea will not be honored by them. We are insane to think otherwise.

I think osama will be good at laying low and doing nothing. Iran will do as they please until Israel does what has to be done.The only problem is that Israel has learned to much from us about fighting wars and would probably leave the job half done. We have not fought a war to win since WW-2
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Now that would shock me. We will look irrelevant as usual.
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Maybe we can send Albright over there to give Ajad a basketball? I see the value in talking for the sake of showing the world that we are open to discussion. I just don't believe in giving an inch an anything. We'll see where Obama lands on this one.
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Maybe we can send Albright over there to give Ajad a basketball? I see the value in talking for the sake of showing the world that we are open to discussion. I just don't believe in giving an inch an anything. We'll see where Obama lands on this one.
Never underestimate the power of American Bureaucracy. Obama might be the Chief, but our career Foreign Service Officers have seen presidents come and go. They'll do their part to implement foreign policy, but that doesn't mean they'll do exactly what Obama wants. They tend to move a lot more slowly than some idealistic upstart might prefer.
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