Who's happy with Government crack down on Wallstreet?

Fieldmouse · 02-01-2009, 04:06 AM

Who here is all happy with Government crack down on CEO pay, office remodeling, and the buying of corporate jets? I bet if you are your jumping for joy with these actions. I've read a lot of posts saying, it's about time. They're finally going to get theirs. It's our money, they have to listen to us.

Keep feeling that way when Government run healthcare is enacted. What's going to be you feeling when they tell you, your too fat, not you can consume adult drinks, You need to pee in a cup twice a month for us, no red meat isn't good for you, your going on a vegitable diet, do you excercise for 10 hours each week?

You better agree with both above positions if your cheering on the public healthcare system.Both are the exact same thing.

TGRIZWALD · 02-01-2009, 04:50 AM

so much for the american dream

Germ · 02-01-2009, 05:04 AM

The crackdown is the the companies who took GOVERMENT(PUBLIC) money. So yes I am

Lets start to post the full stories or we are no better than FOX or MSNBC

The issue is a Paulson and Bush isssue once again[:-]

As for Healthcare, have you read Obama's plan?

falcon · 02-01-2009, 05:08 AM

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It's our money, they have to listen to us

Sounds good to me. These perps camehat in hand to the US taxpayers aftertheirrotten decisions ruinedtheir banks. I want an accounting.

FM, you need to take a chill pill. If you do not it is going to be a very bad 4 years for you.

Fieldmouse · 02-01-2009, 05:26 AM

No, I'm pointing out whats to come with government run healthcare. Remember, it's already happening in Britain where they are denting services for people who have lifestyles not approved by government.

Germ, yes I have read Obama's care plan and it won't work. It's only the slippery slope to get full blown care here in America and more control over what you do with your life. Why won't it work? What do you do with the individual who chooses not to buy insurance? Remember, Obama claims not to make it mandatory. So what happens when that person bringing down 50k/yr decides he doesn't want to buy into a plan that costs $400/mo? How do private companies compete when the government under cuts their plan because we the tax payers make up the difference? How do they survive with those of us who refuse to go under the government plan?

This isn't going to be paradise like many of you think. There are only two ways for government to control costs. Limti services or delay treatment. We already see this in all government run programs throughout the world. Those of you who love to post numbers stating those sytstems cost less. I'll tell you they don't. How much money and productivity is lost when someone must wait 6 months to a year to get knee replacement surgery? In America today, the doctor doesn't get paid until services are rendered. In the Government care doctors get paid no matter what, ie no encentive to be efficeint!

Phil from Maine · 02-01-2009, 06:51 AM

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So what happens when that person bringing down 50k/yr decides he doesn't want to buy into a plan that costs $400/mo?

Shoot me some of these cheap insurance companies addresses. MaybeI can show some of the reitrees up here how they can save a whole lot of cash by getting some different insurance info to them. Most insurance companies up this way are getting roughly $900 a month and that almost doubles what you are trying to say..

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They're finally going to get theirs. It's our money, they have to listen to us.

When they are using our tax dollars it is our money, is it not?

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Who here is all happy with Government crack down on CEO pay, office remodeling, and the buying of corporate jets?

Most companies up here has been cracking down on themselves so why shouldn't the banks and ect.. be doing it on their own? They can't seam to so now they are heading into a direction you do not like? I didn't like the crack down on the airtraffic controllers either but they did it..

Alsatian · 02-01-2009, 07:17 AM

It seems a bit late -- something about closing a barn door after the horse has left -- to be talking about these constraints AFTER the money has been thrown over the transem to these folks. If I were them I think I would say "Dommage, mes amis, the money is mine now and there were no strings attached. Please trust me when I assure you we will give your suggestions due consideration at our next compensation review meeting."

I've said in another post that, while all this brouhaha of taxpayer money funding egregious bonuses to highly compensated executives who are performing poorly plays well to the populist appetite ("Off with their heads! Off with their heads!" . . . where have I heard that cry before???), we need to be on the watch for unintended consequences. What possible unintended consequences? Perhaps driving away the best educated and most experienced financial hands out of these companies and leaving a burnt out shell of . . . lesser lights. Maybe not a risk next week, next month, or 8 months from now, but 18 months from now? over the longer haul?

I think if you wanted to put those constraints in place, the time to have done this would be BEFORE you handed over the wad of cash. I think this should be a lesson learned for the future -- extract your conditions BEFORE you give up the goods. And, as I suggest above, give some serious consideration to unintended consequences of the constraints you are placing on these companies.

nodog · 02-01-2009, 07:39 AM

Who here hasn't learned a thing yet? Those CEO's had it in their control to have the people who voted for Obama tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine, but they along with people like youwere to smart for that.

[&o]

Pay days here just like I said it would be.

What was it you said, oh ya "The economy's just fine" [8D]

falcon · 02-01-2009, 10:36 AM

A bonus is traditionally given a a reward for doing a good jobwhen the company prospers.If the company does not do well the bonuses are either cut or eliminated. Not so among the Wall St. fat cats. In 2004 the economy was very healthy and the Wall St. bankers awarded themselves 18 billion in bonuses. In 2008 after having trashed the world economy and after haveing been bailed out with taxpayer money, those same bankers awarded themselves 18 billion in bonuses. Something is wrong with this scenario.

Leave it to FM to insist that the US taxpayers should reward incompetence and in come cases criminial activity by the Wall St. bankers. Yep,FM gets on here and whines about taxpayer money and socialist causes. Then he saystaxpayers shouldpay the bonusesof fat cat Wall St. bankers as a reward for their trashing the world economy.

Fieldmouse · 02-01-2009, 10:54 AM

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A bonus is traditionally given a a reward for doing a good jobwhen the company prospers.If the company does not do well the bonuses are either cut or eliminated. Not so among the Wall St. fat cats. In 2004 the economy was very healthy and the Wall St. bankers awarded themselves 18 billion in bonuses. In 2008 after having trashed the world economy and after haveing been bailed out with taxpayer money, those same bankers awarded themselves 18 billion in bonuses. Something is wrong with this scenario.

Now your going with Walls Street for the ones to wreck the world Economy, all this time people have been saying it was Big Oil.

I will tell you it's just the normal recession that we always go through. Certainly it isn't the worst we've seen since the 30's. It can't even come close to the 80's yet. It will however, when the inflation kicks in.

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Leave it to FM to insist that the US taxpayers should reward incompetence and in come cases criminial activity by the Wall St. bankers. Yep,FM gets on here and whines about taxpayer money and socialist causes. Then he saystaxpayers shouldpay the bonusesof fat cat Wall St. bankers as a reward for their trashing the world economy.

No that wasn't the purpose of the post. What I'm looking for is consistency (which you have already proven you have none) to the folks crying about what Walls Street does now that they are receiving "tax payer" money. I want to make sure the same people like yourself, who should already be on a government prescribed diet, not to complain when government run healthcare comes around. I want no complaints when your government tells you, you can't eat certain foods, no adult beverages, your forced to take regular drug tests, must excercise (documented) for 10 hours/week...... After all, your getting tax payer money when your getting your healthcare for free.

I know this thought process is above you head falcon but try re-reading it once more out loud.