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Old 01-28-2009, 09:12 AM   #1
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What I want is for the right to realize they do not have the answers and the left to realize they do not have them either.
I want Obama to succeed and govern with a little common sense.

Just stating "Cut Taxes" is not the answer to our current issues. I am for a tax hike IF the money goes to paying down the deficit. Same thing Clinton did in 1993. Spending on our infrastructure is a good thing, no FDR spending did not bring the US out of the depression, but it sure help the Economy take off after WW II.

Today we need to repair our current infrastructure and make it smarter. We need a new energy grid and we need to replace oil today. So I am not a fan of drilling, but also understand we need to start drilling here today for our kid"™s sake.

We do need some tax cuts IMO
1. Employer for hiring US workers
2. Business Startups
3. Tax cuts for business who keep jobs in the US

We also need tax increases
1. Gas to fix our roads
2. 1% sales tax that goes 100% for paying down the debt

We also need to cut a lot of programs, get a line item veto for the president.

Yes I voted for Bush twice, I am a conservative at heart, but there are no true conservatives left in Washington, just as there are no liberals left.

Just people who think their ideas are better than the other sides, and they have no desire in solving problems, just proving that they are right.



I am done

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:25 AM   #2
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Thats why im an independent. I do not follow any prescribed notions. I am free to see fault in what is broken with out haveing to bend to a preset mindset.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:43 AM   #3
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Hey Grem, the right admits we don't have the answers. The right believes the free market has them however. One point directly to what you say is needed.
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1. Gas to fix our roads
Why? How about we spend the tax money already levied on us on the roads instead of all these feel good social programs? Only 20 cents on the dollar in road taxes go to roads. The rest goes else where.
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We also need tax increases
1. Gas to fix our roads
2. 1% sales tax that goes 100% for paying down the debt
Don't we already pay about 58 cents per gallon in federal taxes on gasoline? We use what? About 350 million gallons of gasoline per day? That's $200 million per day in sales tax revenue to the feds...

If that money was dedicated to infrastructure improvements (as it was originally intended), instead of to the general fund where it can be spent on political whims like sending hundreds of millions to overseas abortion clinics, we might have nicer roads and bridges without a tax increase.
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:51 AM   #5
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Dang, FM... You beat me to the punch...
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:55 AM   #6
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Dang, FM... You beat me to the punch...
I had to chuckle about that. I guess conservatives think a like. however, you can tell who is the lawyer. You put it a little more to the point.
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we pay a ton of taxes already. why dont you say something about fixin the way they waste it already.the more you work the tax they want from you.
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Dang, FM... You beat me to the punch...
I had to chuckle about that. I guess conservatives think a like. however, you can tell who is the lawyer. You put it a little more to the point.
I had to google the amount of gasoline we use per day. Then rounded it down in order to not be accused of exaggerating the amount of tax revenues, then pull up the calculator to multiply the number of gallons times the tax... Cost me a couple minutes...
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Thank you for proving my point


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Old 01-28-2009, 10:23 AM   #10
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Thank you for proving my point
Which one? You made several. I was actually trying to rebut your assertion that we need to raise the gasoline tax. I disagree. I think we need to use the tax revenue from the gasoline taxes we already have for transportation infrastructure. If we used all of that revenue for its originally intended purpose, we would have plenty of money for rebuilding infrastructure.
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