Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
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Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
The Department of Health and Human Services announced today in the Federal Registerits calculation of the poverty level for 2009. In 49 states and the District of Columbia, for a family of one, HHS puts the poverty level at an income of $10,830 or below.
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2 persons: $14,570
3 persons: $18,310
4 persons: $22,050
5 persons: $25,790
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For Alaska, it is a few thousand dollars more at each level. The rest of the chart can be found here.
I mention this because the House of Representatives has passed legislation allowing states to offer government-funded health insurance to children who live in families that have incomes up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level. The Senate is expected to pass this legislation, and President Obama is expected to sign it.
The original purpose of the State Children's Health Insurance Program was uncontroversial: provide health care to children of the working poor, families that make too much to qualify for Medicaid but too little to afford insurance on their own.
But S-CHIP has now become a backdoor manner of establishing government-provided health insurance, covering incomes well beyond most definitions of "the working poor."
This means that a family of four with an annual income of $88,200 can receive S-CHIP benefits. A family of five can have a six-figure household income"”$103,160"”and still qualify for this program originally designed to help the poor. (And higher in Alaska.)
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
RE: Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
In late 2007 congress passed a far less onerous version ofchild health care. Bush vetoed it: Now it is back in avery putrid form and Obama will sign it.[:'(]
WASHINGTON "” Republicans appear to have overplayed their hand when blocking the expansion of a children's health care program last year. They face the likelihood that Democrats in the coming weeks will pass a bill that they dislike even more. With more Democrats in Congress and President Barack Obama in the White House, GOP lawmakers don't have the numbers or a veto threat to do anything about it. The Senate planned to begin debate as early as Monday on a bill that would increase spending on the State Children's Health Insurance Program by $31.5 billion over the next 4 1/2 years. Congress approved a similar bill in late 2007 that former President George W. Bush vetoed. The House fell about 15 votes shy of overriding the veto. But the current legislation contains some important changes. It is friendlier to states that want to cover children in families with incomes exceeding three times the federal poverty level "” $63,600 for a family of four.
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In late 2007 congress passed a far less onerous version ofchild health care. Bush vetoed it: Now it is back in avery putrid form and Obama will sign it.[:'(]
Once again your proving my point. Your an independent withno core beliefs. The smiley at the end ofyour line should be:
Your not consistant one bit on any of your stances accept to see which way the wind is blowing. So now your telling me Bush should have signed a bad bill because the Dems would make it worst later on if he didn't? Please, give me a brake falcon. What would stopthem from expanding on the bill now if Bush had signed that bad bill back then?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Subtitle B - Focus on Low-Income Children and Pregnant Women [/align] Section 111 - [/align] Gives states the option to cover targeted low-income pregnant women under CHIP through a state plan amendment if certain conditions are met, including that the state has established an income eligibility level of at least 185% of the federal poverty line for pregnant women under Medicaid. Sets the minimum income eligibility level for children under age 19 at 200% of the poverty line applicable to a family of the size involved. Provides for automatic enrollment for children born to women receiving pregnancy-related assistance.
[/align][/align][/align]Section 114 - Limits the matching rate for states that propose to cover children with effective family income that exceeds 300% of the poverty line. Exempts from this denial (grandfathers) any state that already has an approved state plan amendment or waiver to provide such expenditures.
Minimum 200% of poverty line. Maximum 300% of poverty line. I could find nothing whatsoever in there about any 400%, but I'm open to correction if anyone can find it.
RE: Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
Please focus on the word "Limits". It does not restrict. However, that is neither here nor there. Please explain why I should be forced at gun point to pay to raise my neighbor's kid?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
RE: Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
We'll just skate over the fact that I caught your information source in a lie, huh?
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Please focus on the word "Limits". It does not restrict.
I suggest you invest in a dictionary.
I'm not going to try to explain anything to you. You have already stated flat out that you feel taxation is government imposed robbery. So this is nothing new or different.
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In late 2007 congress passed a far less onerous version ofchild health care. Bush vetoed it: Now it is back in avery putrid form and Obama will sign it.[:'(]
Once again your proving my point. Your an independent withno core beliefs. The smiley at the end ofyour line should be:
Once again FM shoots the messenger for daring to mention the name of his beloved Bushgod. Man,you are going to have one he11 of a time for the next 4 years. Better stock up on chill out pills. Obama and the Democrat congress are goingto do all kinds of crap that none of us like. But thereis no need to come completly unglued about it. The pendulum swung our way for a long time. Now it is swingingin the other direction.
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We'll just skate over the fact that I caught your information source in a lie, huh?
No b ecause even you admit your not a lawyer and what you posted isn't the whole bill. The bill is over 400 pages long and in 07 it was passed with a 400% limit. Are you going to try and tell me they passed a more restrictive bill? I don't think so.
2007 review of the bill http://www.heritage.org/Research/Healthcare/wm1580.cfm
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Expands Government Health Coverage to Middle-Income Adults and Fosters Greater Dependency on Government. The authors of the House bill repudiate the original intent of the program: SCHIP is no longer limited to low-income persons or to children. House sponsors achieve this expansion by simply redefining both "low-income" and "children." Under the bill, eligibility for government coverage would be extended to families with incomes up to 400 percent above the federal poverty level (FPL)"”$82,600 for a family of four"”hardly considered low-income by any reasonable standard.[5] The House policy is transparently absurd: 89 percent of all children between 300 percent and 400 percent of the FPL are enrolled in private health insurance; 77 percent of all children between 200 percent and 300 percent of the FPL are enrolled in private health insurance; and 50 percent of all children between 100 percent and 200 percent of the FPL are enrolled in private health insurance.[6]
As another attempt to expand welfare dependency, the House bill would allow persons up to age 21 to be recognized as "children" for purposes of the law. Under certain provisions, program funds may be used to cover non-pregnant, childless adults.[7]
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In late 2007 congress passed a far less onerous version ofchild health care. Bush vetoed it: Now it is back in avery putrid form and Obama will sign it.[:'(]
Once again your proving my point. Your an independent withno core beliefs. The smiley at the end ofyour line should be: [/blockquote]
Once again FM shoots the messenger for daring to mention the name of his beloved Bushgod. Man,you are going to have one he11 of a time for the next 4 years. Better stock up on chill out pills. Obama and the Democrat congress are goingto do all kinds of crap that none of us like. But thereis no need to come completly unglued about it. The pendulum swung our way for a long time. Now it is swingingin the other direction.
How in the world do you come up with that. I cheer Bush's veto and you want to critize it. So are you in favor of paying peoples insurance now? It's very easy to see your incosistant on your stances and just float in the wind.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
RE: Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
In case you haven't noticed, genius, it's not 2007 any more. Different year, different administration. different people in Congress and this is a different bill. Welcome to today.
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In case you haven't noticed, genius, it's not 2007 any more. Different year, different administration. different people in Congress and this is a different bill. Welcome to today.
Still, the worlds a better place because he's around. Wouldn't you agree?
Health Insurance for Poor Families, with Their Six-Figure Incomes
