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Old 01-18-2009, 08:49 AM   #1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7795586.stm

What is your view on this? Glasgow is at the forefront of this.
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:23 PM   #2
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I'll open with saying that I oppose abortion other thanextremely limited circumstance such as life of the mother or rape/incest cases.

That said, as long as the cells were harvested from fertility clinic rejected cells, or pehaps someday from your own body,I fail to see the problem with promoting a technology with such great promise. Cells can be cultured in a lab to produce vastly more without harming anyone, and could provide great benefit to many others. Imagine going to the hospital for a heart transplant, but the heart is one cultured from stem cells, or perhaps even your own. Reduced cost, zero rejection, no lifelong chemo to keep your body from rejecting it. How about trauma to the brain or spinal cord? What if stem cells could provide the solution?
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:01 PM   #3
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My problem is that I see sacred life in a "foetus." If they can remove some cells without killing, I don't have a problem.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #4
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I think it is a fruitful field, with the limitations Kevin mentioned. My fear is the possibility of condoning abortions. Id hate to see a time when young ladies get pregnant just so they can abort and sell the stem cells.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:29 PM   #5
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I think if there was any merit tostem cell research,the private sector would lead the charge. The issue has not been doing it, but will the government pay for it.

The whole argument is politically based. It made Bush any easy target, because they knew he would stand up for what he believed to be right. It is another example how Bush could have done the easy thing, and taken another arrow from the deranged lefts quiver, but he didn't.

The Hollywood left, and the leftist elites would rather donate their money to a campaign and an inauguration than in something they supposedly believe in...ie. stem cell research. In the end, whatever your beliefs are, you will now be paying for it under Obama. I think after congress passes the funding for it, you will probably not hear much more about it, and the issue will have accomplished onlytwo things. It was one of the battle cries for the Bush haters, and two, we now have even more money pouring into Washington. I think this issue, and the global warming issue are akin to each other.

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I think if there was any merit tostem cell research,the private sector would lead the charge. The issue has not been doing it, but will the government pay for it.




That is because it is illegal to harvest stem cellshere in the states. The ones that were harvested before the ban are being used for research. With quite promissing results. Should government fund this research? Not sure. It would be nice to generate new tissues for those who need transplants or nerves repaired. My issue is the whole harvesting of the cells. We need to start work on mass production of the cells we have, so we do not have to depend on abortions to harvest them. As for the whole notion of using unwanted, frozen ebryos, that is a whole new dilly of a pickle.
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Thank you for your input guys. I think it will help alot of people here.
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The ones that were harvested before the ban are being used for research. With quite promissing results.
Are these embryonic stem cells you are referring to? I have been under the impression that the promissing results have not come from embryonic stem cells, but adult stem cells.

I know very little about this subject (about as much as Big D knows about Christianity ), but I can't help believe that there is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there. There are millions upon millions of dollars at stake for these folks doing the research and a potentialmiracle cure if things work out.

When I think down the path of the harvesting and use of embyonic stem cells, it is very scary.

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Old 01-19-2009, 04:20 PM   #9
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I cannot get past the use ofa humans parts unless that human donated them. If I was solicited by someone who wanted my support for the procedure the conversation would end as soon as the solicitor showed the slightest intent on using non donated cells. Do not put it past us to totally corrupt it. Societies that have eaten their own have always been look down upon by civilized people. Societies that have eaten their young are a whole level down. They did it to enhance their lives too.

Next thing you know they'll need the fetus or foetusalive to harvest the cells. What's with the use of that spelling? (I know the history of the spelling just question it's use)


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I think if there was any merit tostem cell research,the private sector would lead the charge. The issue has not been doing it, but will the government pay for it.




That is because it is illegal to harvest stem cellshere in the states. The ones that were harvested before the ban are being used for research. With quite promissing results. Should government fund this research? Not sure. It would be nice to generate new tissues for those who need transplants or nerves repaired. My issue is the whole harvesting of the cells. We need to start work on mass production of the cells we have, so we do not have to depend on abortions to harvest them. As for the whole notion of using unwanted, frozen ebryos, that is a whole new dilly of a pickle.
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It is not illegal to harvest stem cells in the U.S. The banning only applies to federal funding. That was my whole point. I can see how people get confused over this issue.

Here us a good fact sheet on stem cell research.

http://www.wired.com/medtech/genetics/news/2006/07/71401

Is it currently illegal to conduct embryonic stem-cell research in the United States?
No. Existing regulations only restrict the funding activities of the National Institutes of Health, or NIH, the organization that allocates federal funds for medical research. Under the current rules, the NIH can't fund embryonic stem-cell research except with stem-cell lines approved by the president. But scientists can use private funding to perform embryonic stem-cell research

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