logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Non Hunting > Politics

Politics Nothing goes with politics quite like crying and complaining, and we're a perfect example of that.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-30-2008, 10:33 AM   #1
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,703
Default gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

What has changed in the past 6-9 months to really explain this?

There isn't a huge reduction in demand. There isn't a huge surplus of supply.

There was a change from a Republican in the presidency to a Democrat. There has been a devaluation of the US Dollar. There has been a world Economic scare and a 40% drop in world stock market values.

One thing is sure .... mot families are seeing $150-300 or more in their pockets every month because of it.

That my friends will rebound this economy quicker than anything will IMO
stealthycat II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 10:43 AM   #2
Giant Nontypical
 
bergall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,278
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Quote:
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II

What has changed in the past 6-9 months to really explain this?

There isn't a huge reduction in demand. There isn't a huge surplus of supply.

There was a change from a Republican in the presidency to a Democrat. There has been a devaluation of the US Dollar. There has been a world Economic scare and a 40% drop in world stock market values.

One thing is sure .... mot families are seeing $150-300 or more in their pockets every month because of it.

That my friends will rebound this economy quicker than anything will IMO
Some inconsistencies there. Unless my calendar is more than 3 weeks off, there is STILL a republican in the White House, with a wanna-be soon-to-be giving press conferences. The devaluation of the U.S. dollar can be a cause, and it can also be attributed to decreased demand which (I beg to differ) has occurred once gasolene reached almost $5 a gallon. I predict a RISE in gas prices once the socialists take office...the prices will rise either because OPEC does not see an OBAMA presidency as having the kind of power needed to reign in OPEC, or it will happen because the Obama socialist regime will artificially hike gas prices domestically as part and parcel of another one of their social engineering quagmires-to-be. One thing is for sure....the dems will be shoving their hands back into our pockets once it all becomes 'official' in January....I'll say now, tho, they're emboldened to the point where it's not just a hand in our pocket...they're gonna try to shove the whole arm in there. Will you be so willing to puff up and crow about PEBO's failures 8 months from now, when it becomes apparent you've been sold a 'road apple' in place of a pot-o-gold ?
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
bergall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 11:08 AM   #3
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,703
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Obama gained the office in Nov .... he's more involved in what Presidentially happens than GW does to be honest.

OPEC .... what have they done and where have they been with this $120+ plummet of oil prices?

US had a downturn in oil use .... but c'mon, worldwide it was insignificant and worldwide oil is still being used as much as it was 2 yearsago ....


stealthycat II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 11:34 AM   #4
Boone & Crockett
 
ipscshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 10,257
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Quote:
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II

Obama gained the office in Nov .... he's more involved in what Presidentially happens than GW does to be honest.

OPEC .... what have they done and where have they been with this $120+ plummet of oil prices?

US had a downturn in oil use .... but c'mon, worldwide it was insignificant and worldwide oil is still being used as much as it was 2 yearsago ....
Obama was elected, but he hasn't "gained the office" yet. He isn't President until January. He hasn't done anything "Presidentially" yet, except to establish the Office of the President-Elect, before he was officially "elected", something no other President-Elect has been brazen enough to do. And, just a little FYI... The downturn in oil/gas prices started well before he was elected... It's got NOTHING to do with Obama.
ipscshooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 11:42 AM   #5
Giant Nontypical
 
bergall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,278
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Quote:
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II

Obama gained the office in Nov .... he's more involved in what Presidentially happens than GW does to be honest.

OPEC .... what have they done and where have they been with this $120+ plummet of oil prices?

US had a downturn in oil use .... but c'mon, worldwide it was insignificant and worldwide oil is still being used as much as it was 2 yearsago ....
While powerful, PEBO is not an office holder anymore. He's resigned from the Senate, and is not YET the
President of the United States. So, what office does he hold ?
While he may be acting more 'presidentially', he does so IN PREPARATION FOR his taking the oath of office and not as an acting President. There IS a difference here...I am surprised it has escaped you. So, he holds no office currently. The plummet of gasolene prices can be directly attributed to the devaluation of currency on a planetary scale (and domestically here in the USA) resulting in fewer automobile purchases, fewer airplane rides for vacationers, few boat rides for cruisers, and generally, a worldwide scarcity of credit and cash. Hard economic times put the kabosh on the price of oil on the international commodities market; speculators were keeping the price artificially high. SO, PEBO had just as much to do with the price of oil as Bush did, maybe less. Also, on a 'worldwide' scale, countries like IRAN and CHINA are no longer hoarding and stockpiling tanker-loads of oil waiting for the per-barrel price to go up. When the prices fell, they dumped their caches of crude on the world market, further contributing to the glut and reducing prices further. This had very little to do with Obama's election, IMO.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
bergall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 11:54 AM   #6
Boone & Crockett
 
James B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wall SD USA & Jamestown ND
Posts: 11,476
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

It has nothing to do with osama getting elected, the price here started dropping even before the election. I might also add that if osama doesn't do more as president that he has ever done at anything else, we won't see much impact from him at all. He is a non doer.
__________________
Freedom. Use it or loose it.
James B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 12:01 PM   #7
Boone & Crockett
 
ipscshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas
Posts: 10,257
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Quote:
ORIGINAL: James B

the price here started dropping even before the election.
The prices started dropping even before the Democrat and Republican Conventions. The price peaked in mid-July. The DNC didn't occur until the end of August.

Anybody giving BO credit for lower oil/gas prices is spending a bit too much time with his crack-pipe...
ipscshooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 01:25 PM   #8
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,193
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Ok, back to the original posters topic.......It proves just how much money OPEC, Exxon Mobil, Shell etc...made off of us for a few months. I'd like to see tham all swinging from the gallows.
Simp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 01:34 PM   #9
Dominant Buck
 
kevin1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,547
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

Quote:
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II


There isn't a huge reduction in demand. There isn't a huge surplus of supply.
There is currently a glut of oil on the market, check the commodities news. Demand by the largest oil consumer(US 25%) has indeed fallen, more people are dumping their guzzlers for econo-boxes and otherwise reducing their useage due to the high energy prices.

Quote:
There was a change from a Republican in the presidency to a Democrat.
Not until January.

Quote:
There has been a devaluation of the US Dollar.
Oil is priced in US dollars, as are all petroleum derivatives such as CNG, propane, etc. When the dollar declines so does the barrel price, but not enough to explain the precipitous drop. Fear of price controls could explain why the speculators were driven back though, and speculation is a major part of oil prices.

Quote:
There has been a world Economic scare and a 40% drop in world stock market values.
Energy prices affect far more than just the pump price for gas, they also dampen demand for products, thereby forcing companies to scale back production, and therefore reducing the value of stocks.


Quote:
One thing is sure .... mot families are seeing $150-300 or more in their pockets every month because of it.That my friends will rebound this economy quicker than anything will IMO
"Most families" must have been bathing in gas as well as putting it in the tank to be saving that much in a month, sounds like they were wasting too much to begin with on extraneous travel.

[/quote]
__________________
Kevin Haendiges
NAHC Life Member
NRA Member
Wildlife Forever Member
GOA Member
Buckmasters Member
http://hunting-indiana.com
kevin1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 01:42 PM   #10
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,703
Default RE: gas and oil prices $1.27 a gallon and$38.70 a barrel

so ya'll really don't believe a change from Republican to Democrat in the POTUS made a difference?

a glut of oil kevin1 ? 12 months ago there were huge shortages ...



If anyone thinks the $160 a barrel and $4.50 - $5.00 a gallon gas was anything more than a Republican/GW fleecing than I just don't see where you're at to be honest. World demand is still where its been the past few years with little change. OPEC knows whats being produced and they can control to a degree if they want to ...... to think they've ignored a "glut" piling up? please ........ no one believes that.


Oil isn't supply and demand ...... you do know that, right ?
stealthycat II is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Think Gas prices are High, Check These Gallon prices Montana Bob Politics 5 06-22-2007 02:59 PM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:05 PM.