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Old 12-29-2008, 03:20 PM   #1
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Default Russian Professor Predicts Fall of U.S. in 2010

MOSCOW"” For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media, who are interviewing him twice a day.[/b]

A polite and cheerful man with a buzz cut, Professor Panarin insists he does not dislike Americans. But he warns that the outlook for them is dire.

"There's a 55-45 percent chance right now that disintegration will occur," says Panarin. "One could rejoice in that process," he adds, poker-faced. "But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario "” for Russia."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473529,00.html

Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on U.S.-Russia relations.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces "” with Alaska reverting to Russian control.


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Old 12-30-2008, 08:44 AM   #2
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There is always a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it will or it won't.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:58 PM   #3
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The Russian people aren't exactly panicking at the moment, but they definitely have some serious concerns over the falteringeconomy. The booming construction around Moscow has all but stopped, entrepreneurs and small business owners are hiding from creditors, and the GDP continues to fall, dragging more and more people down with it.

Anything the government can come up with the reassure the people that the U.S. will have it even worse off is fair game for bureaucratsin Moscow. They don't need to tell the citizenry how bad it is, but simplytell them that it's even worse in the West. Relative security has been at the heart of Russian-American relations since 1945. Read Pravda or watch Russia Today and you'll realize that these kinds of stories havebeena very common tactic for many years.
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After all the US has been thru, and a Ruskie professor is deciding our end is forthcoming in 2010....sure
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:49 AM   #5
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It's possible. The country has lost it's focus and what holds us together now isn't what held us together in the begining. Freedom has been replaced with fear and money. If the money goes everythings forsale.
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I disagree with his map. I think Nevada would go with Mexico and Arizona and half of California. And I think Idaho would go with Canada and Ohio would not go with Canada it would go with European and I think Kentucky would go with Canada. And last I do not see Alaska going with Russia.



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Old 01-03-2009, 08:52 AM   #7
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I disagree with his map. I think Nevada would go with Mexico and Arizona and half of California. And I think Idaho would go with Canada and Ohio would not go with Canada it would go with European and I think Kentucky would go with Canada. And last I do not see Alaska going with Russia.



Man, that looks like a good split to me, I'll be living in the country with all of thegiant, mid-western deer Seriously, if the Russian Government really thought the US would split up, they would be crapping their pants right now. For one, since the economy of the entire world is more or less dependent on the US (look at the current situation we are in now), if we go down, their economy would completely be wiped out as well. Also, who would control the US military, including the thousands of nukes we have stockpiled? Could you image Mexico in charge of just a portion of our nuclear arsenal !?I alsodon't see Alaska going over to the ruskies without a fight[:@] It would be kind of humorous to see some of those California libs try and protest under the control of a Chinese government. It would be the beatdown of the century. They don't know how good they have it now....
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Now that would be funny California and all there liberals being under China.

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I find this entire scenario highly unlikely. Without addressing each and every point of the Russian dude in turn, my main counter argument would be that our economy is not in as bad condition as some seem to paint it and additionally that our economy is more resiliant than some view it to be. Basically, the idea that our country is going to come crashing down from a collapse of the economy . . . depends on a collapse of the economy. No collapse of the economy, premise is not valid, the subsequent predictions based on the invalid premise aren't any good.

What may be more to fear is a change of our economic system from a substantially free market system to a socialized system where no big economic entity is allowed by the government to fail. It is a very dangerous precedent to start bailing out every Tom, Dick, and Harry business and/or organization (corporations, newspapers, state governments) with federal money. If this is the result of bailing out the financial institutions, we would have been better off letting those institutions fail and clean up the system right then and there.
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You may want to consider re-reading (reading?) about the early days of our Republic...
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