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Old 11-20-2008, 11:26 AM   #1
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Default 5 Gitmo "Detainees" Ordered Released

Heldfor 7 years for "planning to join alQueda."For years i have planned to stop by Bangkok on my foreign travels and havemake love with some beautiful ladies. Maybe they will come after me next.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/ap_on_go_ot/guantanamo_detainees


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WASHINGTON "“ A federal judge has ordered the release of five Algerian terror suspects who have been held without charges almost seven years at Guantanamo Bay.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon said Thursday that the five men could not be held indefinitely as enemy combatants.

The judge said the military can continue to detain a sixth Algerian "” Belkacem Bensayah "” who was captured with the other five.

One of the men to be released is Lakhdar Boumediene, whose landmark Supreme Court case last summer gave the Guantanamo detainees the right to challenge their imprisonment.

The government had accused all six of the men of planning to travel to Afghanistan to join al-Qaida.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:43 AM   #2
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Heldfor 7 years for "planning to join alQueda."For years i have planned to stop by Bangkok on my foreign travels and havemake love with some beautiful ladies. Maybe they will come after me next.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/ap_on_go_ot/guantanamo_detainees


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WASHINGTON "“ A federal judge has ordered the release of five Algerian terror suspects who have been held without charges almost seven years at Guantanamo Bay.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon said Thursday that the five men could not be held indefinitely as enemy combatants.

The judge said the military can continue to detain a sixth Algerian "” Belkacem Bensayah "” who was captured with the other five.

One of the men to be released is Lakhdar Boumediene, whose landmark Supreme Court case last summer gave the Guantanamo detainees the right to challenge their imprisonment.

The government had accused all six of the men of planning to travel to Afghanistan to join al-Qaida.
falcon, here's my 2c for what its worth.....

The SC was right ot let these men challenge their imprisonment - otherwise we're no different than Castro, Mao, and Stalin with their political "thought" prisons.

We have to stand for the principles America has championed all these years - else we're nothing but another rabble who makes up the rules as we go.

If they (detainees) committed some crime, try themNOW and hopefully a conviction with a very public hanging would suit me right down to the ground - ifwe have little or no evidence against them, re-patriate them NOW. Turn'em loose.

Get this foolishness over with one way or another.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:15 PM   #3
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7 years for planning to join an organization with a primary goal of killing American civilians? Sounds good to me. You've got people here in the U.S. that will be doing that much time and all they did was "plan" about killing Obama without much hope of actually carrying it out.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:30 PM   #4
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I might go to hell for this, but it is hard for me to lose sleep over them.

Some one remind me agian where these guys were picked up at? And what were they doing???
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:39 PM   #5
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It would also be interesting to hear why some of the detainees left in Gitmo have home countries that don't want them back[]
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:37 PM   #6
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the point is not whether planning to join al qaida is a crime. if it isn't, it should be.

the point is, they were held for seven damn years without even being charged. that is an affront to justice, and the principals this country was founded on.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:53 PM   #7
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the point is, they were held for seven damn years without even being charged. that is an affront to justice, and the principals this country was founded on.

Bingo!!!!

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In the first case of its kind, U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon said the government's evidence linking the five Algerians to al-Qaida was not credible as it came from a single, unidentified source. Therefore, he said, the five could not be held indefinitely as enemy combatants, and should be released immediately.
That there was a single unidentified source makes the case against these guys very smelly. The fact thatthey were held for 7 years without trial tells me that the case against them is either non-existent or very weak.

Because some dumb butts in the white house had it their way, some very bad guys have already been released due to political pressure from their native countries. Would the white house turn a known terrorist over to his home country due to political pressure from that country? The answer is yes; they have already done that.

Theprolonged incarceration of prisoners of war at Gitmo has cost this country greatly when it comes to credibility andinternational relations. Federal courts up to and including POTUS haverepeatedlysent signals to the white house that they were on the wrong track with prisoners of war. Because the white house had to have it their way, US federal courts are going to turn loose some very bad guys.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:08 AM   #8
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Principles this country was founded on? I think that the treatment of the Gitmo criminals is child's play compared to what some of our founding fathers would have done to them, and likely without making full use of the legal process. At least i don't recall any of the Barbary pirates being brought back to the U.S. for a trial.[&:]
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Yep. Take them halfway home, toss them overboard, and tell them to swim the rest of the way.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:30 AM   #10
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Hard to send them back when lots of them are not wanted by their home countries. Even when they are released for lack of evidence, they have a nasty habit of turning back up on the battlefield. []
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