Texas grand jury indicts Cheney, Gonzales of crime

[Canuck_Buck]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/081119/us/politics_us_usa_texas_cheney_indictment

thoughts anyone ?

[burniegoeasily]

Looks like Chuckles needs a good spanking.

[fodderblade]

Cheney has longacted as thoughthe rule of law doesn't apply to him and he has shown open contempt for the Constitution.

He should have been prosecuted for criminal negligence when he shot his friend in the face.

Now he may see the law applies to him as well.

[burniegoeasily]

I agree, Cheney is no Saint. All politicians are crocked in one way or another. Look at the V.P. we are about to get. He dodged plagiarism charges. What is it about V.P.s?

[Lanse couche couche]

This sounds a little like when some village in Vermont holds a hearing and finds Bush guilty of war crimes. Could be more to it than that. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Cheney and Gonzales to end up on Cell Block B getting passed around in exchange for a cartoon of Camels.

[ipscshooter]

ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche

a cartoon of Camels.

They make those? I've seen cartoons of rabbits, and ducks, and tasmanian devils, and roadrunners, and coyotes... Never camels.

And... That comment is far more serious than the charges against Cheney and Gonzalez...

[DeerandbearhoG]

Cheny profited from abusing criminals ... Where's the crime? IMO inmates have it too easy in the US prison system, so excuse me if I dont shed a tear for a bunch of thugs.

[StruttinGobbler3]

IMO inmates have it too easy in the US prison system, so excuse me if I dont shed a tear for a bunch of thugs.

x2. there are absolute satanic child killing monsters in the prison systems today that have a roof over their head, three square meals a day, outdoor activities, television...there arehardworking, decent people in America who don't have those kind of luxuries.

[Fieldmouse]

Cheney has longacted as thoughthe rule of law doesn't apply to him and he has shown open contempt for the Constitution.

Please, evidence? Can you back this up with something?

He should have been prosecuted for criminal negligence when he shot his friend in the face.

Who did he shoot in the face? I don't believe it was in the face and evidence showed he was at fault for getting in front of the line. This sort of thing happen every year and no one is procescuted. It's what's called an accident. Kinda like the way you began life![8D]

[fodderblade]

From one Of Ronald Reagans own handpicked supporters,

Yup, that about does it for "Slick Dick" - he is an enemy of the Constitution pure and simple.

Under Dick Cheney, the office of the vice president has been transformed from a tiny acorn into an unprecedented giant oak. In grasping and exercising presidential powers, Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III. The most recent invention we know of is the vice president's insistence that an executive order governing the handling of classified information in the executive branch does not reach his office because he also serves as president of the Senate. In other words, the vice president is a unique legislative-executive creature standing above and beyond the Constitution. The House judiciary committee should commence an impeachment inquiry. As Alexander Hamilton advised in the Federalist Papers, an impeachable offense is a political crime against the nation. Cheney's multiple crimes against the Constitution clearly qualify...
President George W. Bush outsourced the lion's share of his presidency to Vice President Cheney, and Mr. Cheney has made the most of it. Since 9/11, he has proclaimed that all checks and balances and individual liberties are subservient to the president's commander in chief powers in confronting international terrorism. Let's review the record of his abuses and excesses:
The vice president asserted presidential power to create military commissions, which combine the functions of judge, jury, and prosecutor in the trial of war crimes. The Supreme Court rebuked Cheney in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. Mr. Cheney claimed authority to detain American citizens as enemy combatants indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay on the president's say-so alone, a frightening power indistinguishable from King Louis XVI's execrated lettres de cachet that occasioned the storming of the Bastille. The Supreme Court repudiated Cheney in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld.
The vice president initiated kidnappings, secret detentions, and torture in Eastern European prisons of suspected international terrorists. This lawlessness has been answered in Germany and Italy with criminal charges against CIA operatives or agents. The legal precedent set by Cheney would justify a decision by Russian President Vladimir Putin to kidnap American tourists in Paris and to dispatch them to dungeons in Belarus if they were suspected of Chechen sympathies.
The vice president has maintained that the entire world is a battlefield. Accordingly, he contends that military power may be unleashed to kill or capture any American citizen on American soil if suspected of association or affiliation with al-Qaida. Thus, Mr. Cheney could have ordered the military to kill Jose Padilla with rockets, artillery, or otherwise when he landed at O'Hare Airport in Chicago, because of Padilla's then-suspected ties to international terrorism.
Mr. Cheney has championed a presidential power to torture in contravention of federal statutes and treaties.
He has advocated and authored signing statements that declare the president's intent to disregard provisions of bills he has signed into law that he proclaims are unconstitutional, for example, a requirement to obtain a judicial warrant before opening mail or a prohibition on employing military force to fight narco-terrorists in Colombia. The signing statements are tantamount to absolute line-item vetoes that the Supreme Court invalidated in the 1998 case Clinton v. New York.
The vice president engineered the National Security Agency's warrantless domestic surveillance program targeting American citizens on American soil in contravention of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. He concocted the alarming theory that the president may flout any law that inhibits the collection of foreign intelligence, including prohibitions on breaking and entering homes, torture, or assassinations. As a reflection of his power in this arena, today the Senate Judiciary Committee subpoenaed Cheney's office, as well as the White House, for documents that relate to the warrantless eavesdropping.
The vice president has orchestrated the invocation of executive privilege to conceal from Congress secret spying programs to gather foreign intelligence, and their legal justifications. He has summoned the privilege to refuse to disclose his consulting of business executives in conjunction with his Energy Task Force, and to frustrate the testimonies of Karl Rove and Harriet Miers regarding the firings of U.S. attorneys.
Cheney scorns freedom of speech and of the press. He urges application of the Espionage Act to prosecute journalists who expose national security abuses, for example, secret prisons in Eastern Europe or the NSA's warrantless surveillance program. He retaliated against Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame, through Chief of Staff Scooter Libby, for questioning the administration's evidence of weapons of mass destruction as justification for invading Iraq. Mr. Cheney is defending himself from a pending suit brought by Wilson and Plame on the grounds that he is entitled to the absolute immunity of the president established in 1982 by Nixon v. Fitzgerald. (Although this defense contradicts Cheney's claim that he is not part of the executive branch.)

By Bruce Fein: former general counsel of the Federal Communications Commission in the Reagan administration