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Old 11-05-2008, 07:25 AM   #1
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Default The Politics of fear.

I have seen as much as felt for the last 6 years that the politics of fear and slander were wearing thin from their inception. Fear propagated by the war-mongers desperately seeking to justify a war in Iraq built on falsehoods and "tax-fear" bred by the mega-wealthyin order to keep the middle/lower classes divided and voting against their own self interest.

W and co. used this tactic successfully in 2004 to frighten the public into supporting Bush for a 2nd term, and it worked - barely.

There was/is one fatal flaw with that strategy - it only works for a short time politically. Folks consciously or otherwise grow weary with being pulled along by the nose-ring of fear and dread.

Eventually the rhetoric questioned patriotism, false claims of democrat surrender to terrorism, usurping the Constitution in the name of fear, and the fallacy of republican fiscal conservatism showed their true colors and bore their empty, hollow fruits.

The people demanded an end to this philosophy - and they got it.

Carl Rove orchestrated these subversive tactics beautifully on an unsuspecting public from 9-11 onward. The eventual backlash as the public woke from these darkly woven dreams was severe, and McCain bore the full brunt of it.

McCain did not employ Rove to any great extent, but Rove, and the supporters of his seeds of division and rancor, can be given a large measure of credit for McCain's defeat.

These insidious strategies demanded a sacrifice once the People were aware - and that sacrifice was the candidacy of John McCain

Mr. Rove, you spoke, and the People listened - eventually.

Now they hear your words as they were truly meant andconsequences have been dire for the Republican Party.

May we as a people never againembrace such subversive, divisive and unpatriotic tactics to wrest power from the People of the Greatest Nation on Earth.

The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:28 AM   #2
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I have seen as much as felt for the last 6 years that the politics of fear and slander were wearing thin from their inception. Fear propagated by the war-mongers desperately seeking to justify a war in Iraq built on falsehoods and "tax-fear" bred by the mega-wealthyin order to keep the middle/lower classes divided and voting against their own self interest.

W and co. used this tactic successfully in 2004 to frighten the public into supporting Bush for a 2nd term, and it worked - barely.

There was/is one fatal flaw with that strategy - it only works for a short time politically. Folks consciously or otherwise grow weary with being pulled along by the nose-ring of fear and dread.

Eventually the rhetoric questioned patriotism, false claims of democrat surrender to terrorism, usurping the Constitution in the name of fear, and the fallacy of republican fiscal conservatism showed their true colors and bore their empty, hollow fruits.

The people demanded an end to this philosophy - and they got it.

Carl Rove orchestrated these subversive tactics beautifully on an unsuspecting public from 9-11 onward. The eventual backlash as the public woke from these darkly woven dreams was severe, and McCain bore the full brunt of it.

McCain did not employ Rove to any great extent, but Rove, and the suporters of his seeds of division and rankor, can be given a large measure of credit for McCain's defeat.

These insidious strategies demanded a sacrifice once the People were aware - and that sacrifice was the candidacy of John McCain

Mr. Rove, you spoke, and the People listened - eventually.

Now they hear your words as they were truly meant andconsequences have been dire for the republican party.

May we as a people never againembrace such subversive, divisive and unpatriotic tactics to wrest power from the People of the Greatest Nation on Earth.

The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:02 AM   #3
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^^ Complete BS.
Bitter in defeat I see. Nothing more disgraceful than a sore loser.

Anyhoo, back to the topic.

Obama's victory only adds a more stark contrast to the abysmal state that most voters see our country is in under Republican/Corporate leadership.

The backlash has been severe.

The Mandate is clear - the manipulation of the American public through the propaganda of fear has failed utterly.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:05 AM   #4
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the manipulation of the American public through the propaganda of fear has failed utterly.
Although I think you have made some good points fodder, one has to wonder if the propaganda you speak of has only been supplanted by an even newer form of propaganda as is usually the case in politics, imo.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:10 AM   #5
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the manipulation of the American public through the propaganda of fear has failed utterly.
Although I think you have made some good points fodder, one has to wonder if the propaganda you speak of has only been supplanted by an even newer form of propaganda as is usually the case in politics, imo.
Excellent point sir, well said.

I suppose that is the gamble we all take each time we cast our ballots.

"Who do I trust more?" is the question in the back of all our minds I think.

Time will tell on Obama, for good or ill.

It has already told on Bush/McCain/Rove-republicans.

- that's what drove the Obama machine
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:17 AM   #6
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Has any of you ever thought about what will happen if he get hit by a larger attack in the next 4 years than 9/11? 9/11 changed everything.

What most of this forum doesn't account for is the world is not "steady state", its dynamic. Clinton did enjoy a breif steady state time period. Partly due to the fall of the Soviet Union. Once the world got over that, it went back to business as usual. One thing we can always count on is if we don't like the way things are now, we can count on it changing for the worse or better.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:18 AM   #7
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suppose that is the gamble we all take each time we cast our ballots.

"Who do I trust more?" is the question in the back of all our minds I think.

Time will tell on Obama, for good or ill.

It has already told on Bush/McCain/Rove-republicans.

- that's what drove the Obama machine
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agreed.

As I've said before, I bet GW Boosh will experience in post presidency an uncommon phenomenon...being repeatedly and vigorously heckled at what are supposed to be inane state ceremonies...good riddance you b*sturd
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:20 AM   #8
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No falsehoods in regard to iraq. Bush said that he was gonna go after terrorist states and Iraq is one of them.
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^^ Complete BS.
Bitter in defeat I see. Nothing more disgraceful than a sore loser.

Anyhoo, back to the topic.

Obama's victory only adds a more stark contrast to the abysmal state that most voters see our country is in under Republican/Corporate leadership.

The backlash has been severe.

The Mandate is clear - the manipulation of the American public through the propaganda of fear has failed utterly.
You being an author of BS propaganda does not make me bitter.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:35 AM   #10
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LOL! The more I think about this, the more amused I get. You can't handle the critique of your writing, and accuse me over it. Good stuff!
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