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Old 10-31-2008, 01:29 PM   #1
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Since the Dems took over, gas prices have gone through the roof. Time to thank Bush and Cheney for getting gas down below 2.00 again. After all the Gas prices are their fault RIGHT????? Big bad Cheney and his crooked oil pals????

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Old 10-31-2008, 03:31 PM   #2
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Obama did it. He is paying the difference between the pump price of$2.00 and $3.89.
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Old 10-31-2008, 04:13 PM   #3
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Took one heck of a economic meltdown to get the price down though. That's like thanking someone for getting rid of the leak in your roof by burning down your house. But you're right. Give credit where it's due.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:15 PM   #4
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I don't think the meltdown had anything to do with the drop in gas prices. In ND though the price of oil is getting near the break even price and they will start cutting production too.The wells close to the pipe line have a 20.00 per barrel break even price where the wells some distance away need 60.00 a barrel to break even. Thats about where we are now.
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:16 PM   #5
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Took one heck of a economic meltdown to get the price down though. That's like thanking someone for getting rid of the leak in your roof by burning down your house. But you're right. Give credit where it's due.
So we can thank Dodd and Frank....nice....!
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:59 PM   #6
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I paied $1.99 a gallon two days ago in Abilene Tx.. I couldnt believe it.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:53 PM   #7
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I don't think the meltdown had anything to do with the drop in gas prices.
Gas prices skyrocket. People don't have money to spend on extra goodies because the gas tank is sucking up every extra nickle they've got. Demand for goods and services decline. The economy starts slowing down. People start getting laid off.

750,000 people out of work and not drawing a paycheck to use to buy gas. They don't drive, demand drops. People get worried about their jobs and they quit spending as much and driving as much. Demand drops. People who do drive do their damnedest to switch to high mileage vehicles. Demand drops. People who can't switch to high mileage cars just don't drive if they can help it. Demand drops more. Demand drops, prices drop.

People stop looking to buy houses in the suburbs because the price of gas makes it too expensive to commute. Housing prices in the burbs starts falling. As gas prices go up, decreases in home prices accelerate. Suddenly folks in the burbs owe more than their homes are worth, can't sell them for enough to cover the principle of their loan(s) and... the sub-prime mortgage thing blows sky high.

Big oil futures speculators like Lehman Bros, AIG and others go bust and that was a big chunk of change out of the oil pricing loop. Oil prices already sliding and the Dow drops 34%. Investors freak out. Whatever speculators have money left, they cut and run and hide it away in T bills. Oil goes from $147 a barrel to $64 a barrel. Why? Because of the meltdown. It's a straight line cause and effect. No thought required.

And Exxon STILL made record profits last quarter!

I still argue that the insanely high prices of oil slowed down the economy and helped light the fuse on the bomb that blew everything up in the first place. And the Bush administration's refusal to do anything at all about skyrocketing fuel prices is what aided and abetted the process. So, your original point is made. The falling oil prices are credited to Bush/Cheney.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:06 PM   #8
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Gas prices are going down and I'll be the first to say that I'm selfishly very thankful. But then again, looking at the bigger, picture, I guess we're falling back behind the rest of the world again. When gas prices were higher people were driving less, exercising more, etc. etc. Hopefully these trends will hold true even while gas prices are down
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:48 PM   #9
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Aurthur. You are probably right that the high prices added tothe problem. I just don't think they were tied directly to the other problems with the housing crash. Until we can bring alternate forms of energy on line though we have to drill every possible source to produce oil. We have a lot of untapped fields of our own.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:51 PM   #10
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I have to say being happy gas prices are lower is no reason think you're selfish!

I have actually put more miles on mymt. bikethis year than on my 2 vehicles combined. I am definitely happy about no more $5 a gallon diesel though. Lets enjoy it while it lasts cause we all know its not gonna be low for long. Now that gas has went down I still am driving very little. Nothing like Fall...hunt in the am bike midday and hunt in the eves..lol. Then back to work in January [:@]
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