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Old 10-23-2008, 07:08 PM   #1
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If you truly want to support your candidate it would be helpful to discuss REAL issues as it relates to him. You all spend more time degrading Obama than you do to boost your candidate. What gives? Do you feel that your candidate has so little to offer that you'd rather resort tolies/scare tactics about Mr. Obama? For example, when you stand on the mountain tops and allege that Obama is a terrorist, or Obama's mother was a poor parent. Or Obama is a Muslim. Or Obama is not patriotic. OrObama is a Socialist. Or Obama is the Anti-Christ, Or Obama sat onthe same board backwith a guy who's 1/2 brother on his cousinsside was a terroristetc., etc., do you honestly think you're helping McCain win this election? Most people are going to vote for Obama/McCain regardless of these attacks. However, there are some out there who may be swayed. All's not lost McCain supportersHowever, I'd chance it to say that these people are not swayed by these ridiculous accusations, although they are funny sometimes...Get to the real issues. Explain why your candidate is the better candidate---or is your candidate the better candidate...hhhmmmmm...[]
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
 
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If you truly want to support your candidate it would be helpful to discuss REAL issues as it relates to him. You all spend more time degrading Obama than you do to boost your candidate. What gives?
I can't speak for everyone, but for myself what gives is that I don't really like McCain, but I really despise Obama, and just about any other socialist nanny-state moron that could have run in his place. So, instead of talking up McCain, who I don't really like, I bash on Hussein.

Also, it's really easy to bash on somebody like that. I mean, come on, he spent $2 mil on a party he may not have, how responsible do you think he will be when it's our money he's spending?

See what I mean? It's like fish in a barrel.
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:35 PM   #3
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Been a Republican for 50 years. This is theby far the gloomiest election i have ever seen for Republicans.Would you believe that no one has called and asked my wife and i to vote forMcCain/Palin.We have not received one solicitation for a contribution. The RNC and the RNCC have given up. Republicans sit on their duffs bad mouthing Obama instead of trying to energize the party. If Obama wins this election itwill happenbecause the Republican partygave it to him.

McCain may have been fatally wounded byfar righttalk show trash like Coulterdiest and Limpbaugh.
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:50 PM   #4
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I can't speak for everyone, but for myself what gives is that I don't really like McCain, but I really despise Obama, and just about any other socialist nanny-state moron that could have run in his place. So, instead of talking up McCain, who I don't really like, I bash on Hussein.

Also, it's really easy to bash on somebody like that. I mean, come on, he spent $2 mil on a party he may not have, how responsible do you think he will be when it's our money he's spending?

See what I mean? It's like fish in a barrel.
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If Obama wins this election itwill happenbecause the Republican partygave it to him
That is very true I have not got one phone call this election and that is a first. It"™s like they want to lose.
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:52 PM   #5
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Would you believe that no one has called and asked my wife and i to vote forMcCain/Palin.
Does this mean you're spending your weekends and evenings at the local party HQ making calls? Or are you energizing the party by sitting around waiting on someone to call YOU?

Regarding the original post, how about this for issues:
What do you think Obama is going to do about your gun rights? Not a real issue?
Where do you think he's going to get the money for all these brilliant plans? An issue?
Where were all these bright ideas before he ran for president, i.e. where are all the bills he sponsored in the Senate that would have accomplished some of these things? Oh, wait. That would be leadership, and it's not there.
Speaking of leadership, how about if we cut and run in Iraq, just like Clinton did in Somalia, then tell the weak nations that we'll protect them. Actions speak louder than words. Not a real issue?
And yes, the simple fact that he won't put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem is enough for me, regardless of the foregoing.

The real test of a candidate is what he was doing BEFORE he threw his hat in the ring. Compare the two on that scale, and there is no contest.
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:08 PM   #6
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What do you think Obama is going to do about your gun rights? Not a real issue?
No that is a real issuethe 2nd Amendment is very important.
The Democrats don"™t like to hear how bad there Obama is when it comes to Guns.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:04 PM   #7
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Would you believe that no one has called and asked my wife and i to vote forMcCain/Palin.
Does this mean you're spending your weekends and evenings at the local party HQ making calls? Or are you energizing the party by sitting around waiting on someone to call YOU?

Regarding the original post, how about this for issues:
What do you think Obama is going to do about your gun rights? Not a real issue?
Where do you think he's going to get the money for all these brilliant plans? An issue?
Where were all these bright ideas before he ran for president, i.e. where are all the bills he sponsored in the Senate that would have accomplished some of these things? Oh, wait. That would be leadership, and it's not there.
Speaking of leadership, how about if we cut and run in Iraq, just like Clinton did in Somalia, then tell the weak nations that we'll protect them. Actions speak louder than words. Not a real issue?
And yes, the simple fact that he won't put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem is enough for me, regardless of the foregoing.

The real test of a candidate is what he was doing BEFORE he threw his hat in the ring. Compare the two on that scale, and there is no contest.
This is all true they do not like the truth.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:48 PM   #8
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I think McCain is much better than Obama on gun control. I think McCain is better on keeping government smaller, cutting taxes, making government responsible, accountable and open, picking VP running mates and last, but not least, I actually trust McCain to be loyal to our country whereas I do not trust Obama to do the same.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:38 PM   #9
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exactly

I cannot support McCain, and I hate Obama, and I've accepted that I will NOT vote for the lesser of two evils because thats still evil


Baldwin/Castle gets my vote this year
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:27 AM   #10
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What bothers us mostly is probably that we see Obama doesn't even have the credibility to be running as a Presidential candidate, most candidates up to this point have done something more, I mean, even if they're first-term Senators, they do something! The Senator gets a talking point besides the fact that he has run a campaign. He has treated that as a qualification. It's not only frustrating, it's insulting.

People just can't take him seriously on here. I have been watching seasons of the West Wing (we own all of them on DVD) and in the Presidential campaign, when there's an attack on even the Democratic candidate, he has to answer at least 3 questions by reporters, and the allegations or questions are all over the news. Is that the way it is in 2008? No, somehow, there's something wrong here, because it almost feels to me, that at best, people are stuck in the primaries, since the Democratic Presidential campaign revealed very little if not nothing at all about Obama, and the actual General Election hasn't done much, either.

Hopefully, the Obama campaign is being vague about specific positions the Senator has and about his past (They haven't even allowed anyone to see his thesis yet), is because people sincerely won't understand, and because it sounds bad, they can't or won't vote for him.


I really can't say that's true. I am more inclined to think the opposite. There really are noindependent or multi-partisanthinkers when it comes down to it, you're either going to be brought in by Obama's attack machine with only spending 30% of the time slamming your President 20% attacking your opponent, and the rest about un-specifically saying what we need to fix, and that we need to fix it, and that people are going to have fun.
OR, you're conservative, and happy about McCain, OR you're conservative, and you're not voting or you're voting for a nobody, OR you're conservative and you're going to vote for McCain, even though he wasn't your favorite during the primaries. Then, you could be voting for McCain because of Sarah Palin, there's a few out there.

Many conservatives are voting against Obama, to my knowledge not many liberals will say it, but they're trying to vote against Bush, when they can't so they're going to label themselves "open-minded" and become liberal.


Doesn't invoke people to actively debate anyone, bashing is easier.It's what everyone was supposed to do back in the primaries.

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