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Old 10-16-2008, 04:26 AM   #1
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my gut feeling: the mccain campaign has quietly conceded defeat.

don't get me wrong-i thought he did well in the debate, far better than the first two. but his whole performance played to hisconservative base. i think he'sfighting now to just avoid a landslide.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:36 AM   #2
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i think he'sfighting now to just avoid a landslide.
Never watched the debate because idon't dofiction. You are most likely correct. McCain made some serious accusations that are not going to help him with independent voters.

The RNC has very recently pulled out of a couple of battle ground states in order to focus on VA and NC where Obama has made some recent gains.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:44 AM   #3
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Here is my random thought:

Why does Senetor Obama refer to Senetor McCain as "John".

1) He is older
2) He is a United States Senetor

Everytime he says to Sen. McCain, "John", I wanted to puke. Actually, that is every time he opens his socialist mouth.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:38 PM   #5
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The polls coming out of this debate were a REAL trip.

CNN showed Obama winning overwhelmingly, Fox was split down the middle, and meanwhile, the AP columnist said McCain beat Obama in every issue.


Really unreliable, I didn't watch the whole re-run. Forget it, Election Day is where I'll be getting my data.
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:06 PM   #6
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boysda, I have a lot of respect for your opinions, but that wasn't my take at all. I saw him as much more energized last night than he's been so far. I think it would be foolish for McCain to concede defeat -- quietly or otherwise -- at this point, and I don't think you're going to see him do that. This is still a race that is very much wide open.

The latest Rasmussen poll in Ohio has it tied again. If McCain surges back in Missouri, Virginia and Florida, then we're right back where we were 3 weeks ago, when McCain was ahead of Obama nationally: Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico will decide it, with McCain needing 2 out of 3. With 3 weeks left, this is not an insurmountable task.
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boysda, I have a lot of respect for your opinions, but that wasn't my take at all. I saw him as much more energized last night than he's been so far. I think it would be foolish for McCain to concede defeat -- quietly or otherwise -- at this point, and I don't think you're going to see him do that. This is still a race that is very much wide open.

The latest Rasmussen poll in Ohio has it tied again. If McCain surges back in Missouri, Virginia and Florida, then we're right back where we were 3 weeks ago, when McCain was ahead of Obama nationally: Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico will decide it, with McCain needing 2 out of 3. With 3 weeks left, this is not an insurmountable task.
New Mexico is all but lost, I expect McCain to pull out late next week as he runs shorter on funds and has to do triage. McCain MUST win Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Missouri, and Colorado. Obama needs only one of those states to top McCain. Obama is also pulling out all of the stops in Omaha NE (NH and NE split up the electoral votes) for its one electoral vote. If he wins it and McCain does manage to win the rest, it's 269 to 269. Then the newly elected DEMOCRATIC Congress gets to select our next President. I am sure Joe Lieberman will pull it out for McCain in that scenario.


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I did have a thread that speculated this scenario, and basically the chances are that since the House picks the new President, Obama would probably be selected for the job, BUT, in the narrowly-controlled Senate, with rebels in there like Liebermann, there's a good chance that Sarah Palin could very easily get the VP slot. Talk about having a powerful VP, there'd be an interesting divided government, alot of oversight, to say the least.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:35 AM   #9
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boysda, I have a lot of respect for your opinions, but that wasn't my take at all. I saw him as much more energized last night than he's been so far. I think it would be foolish for McCain to concede defeat -- quietly or otherwise -- at this point, and I don't think you're going to see him do that. This is still a race that is very much wide open.

The latest Rasmussen poll in Ohio has it tied again. If McCain surges back in Missouri, Virginia and Florida, then we're right back where we were 3 weeks ago, when McCain was ahead of Obama nationally: Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico will decide it, with McCain needing 2 out of 3. With 3 weeks left, this is not an insurmountable task.
you are right, of course. opinion proferred too early in the morning, before the coffee kicked in.

i did think he was energized and aggressive. it was his best performance to date.


what i can't fathom, though, is that for the last week and through that debate, mccain played almost solely to his base. this late in the race, that makes little sense-your base should be solidly behind you, and now you're making a centrist play for enough undecided votes to get you over the top.

i have been continually flumoxed when trying to figure out the mccain campaign's strategy throughout this race.
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i have been continually flumoxed when trying to figure out the mccain campaign's strategy throughout this race.
That makes 2 of us. I think it has been a poorly run campaign for the most part.
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