McCain said he wouldn't vote for equal pay for women?

wahoohunter · 09-17-2008, 04:15 PM

So McCain really said that he would not vote in favor of Lilly Ledbetter in the case where she was treated unfairly when it came to pay by the Goodyear Tire company? He even cited that women needed more education and training!? wow wow wow....sounds like quite the exemplary fellow we need running this country[&:]

jeepkid · 09-17-2008, 04:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: wahoohunter

So McCain really said that he would not vote in favor of Lilly Ledbetter in the case where she was treated unfairly when it came to pay by the Goodyear Tire company? He even cited that women needed more education and training!? wow wow wow....sounds like quite the exemplary fellow we need running this country[&:]

Better then Obama!

flyinfeathers · 09-17-2008, 04:23 PM

Post a link to the article you gathered this info.

wahoohunter · 09-17-2008, 04:24 PM

i didn't get it from an article, i got it from the mouth of Lilly Ledbetter

"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them."

"I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems," the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. "This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system."

There are not "buts" when it comes to equality in a matter as such

hillbillyhunter1 · 09-17-2008, 05:15 PM

IF an individual thinks that they are being treated unfairly then they can use whatever methods neccesary to remedy their own situation. I don't believe that overall there is a problem and certainly not one that requires some governmental mandate. If you're worth it, you get paid. If you're not, then you need to increase your own individual worth or settle.

Fieldmouse · 09-17-2008, 05:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1

IF an individual thinks that they are being treated unfairly then they can use whatever methods neccesary to remedy their own situation. I don't believe that overall there is a problem and certainly not one that requires some governmental mandate. If you're worth it, you get paid. If you're not, then you need to increase your own individual worth or settle.

Bingo!

Whahoo what your asking for is more litigation not equal pay.

wahoohunter · 09-17-2008, 05:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1

IF an individual thinks that they are being treated unfairly then they can use whatever methods neccesary to remedy their own situation. I don't believe that overall there is a problem and certainly not one that requires some governmental mandate. If you're worth it, you get paid. If you're not, then you need to increase your own individual worth or settle.

So when this woman, after working for many years, goes in and does a little research where she finds she has been shorted thousands and thousands of dollars. Well she takes it straight to the supreme court not merely for herself, but for other women as well. The decision is voted against her 5-4 and the reasoning is that she should have filed the complaint within 6 months of first being paid unfairly. Of course, that would not be possible because she was not aware that she was being paid unjustly nor did she have any reason to thin such a thing was occurring. I don't care if its "litigation" or "equal pay" or whatever, I don't for the life of me know how you all can stand by your man when he thinks equal pay isn't something he needs to be voting for

hillbillyhunter1 · 09-17-2008, 05:42 PM

Sorry but I think everyone is worth what they settle for. I believe in a minimum wage across the board for everyone, but after that you negotiate your own wage. If it's not enough for you, then re-negotiate, settle, or find something else. That pay was good enough for her. She worked there voluntarily. If she wants more now, fine. But what she willingly worked for in the past is in the past.

wahoohunter · 09-17-2008, 05:50 PM

OK hillbillyhunter, you and your colleague are working together at the same job doing the exact same tasks. You each have the same educational background and started working the exact same day. You never inquire as to how much he is paid partially because its non of your business and partially because since you are doing the ExAct same thing with the eXacT same background you would expect it to be the same...20 years later somehow it leaks out that he has been making twice as much as you have per hour...So, with this information, you're not upset? It was good enough for you so who cares that you were being served unjustly?

hillbillyhunter1 · 09-17-2008, 06:30 PM

Then that's my problem. I would probably know my co-workers (peers) well enough to know ifthereare/were discrepanciesand take action, or not, depending on my particular situation.

It's not unjust if I've agreed to it, as long as I'm a mature, mentally competent person. If my peer asks for a$1.00 an hour raise and get's it, should I then automatically get one dollar more too...I don't think so.