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Old 09-09-2008, 12:54 PM   #1
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:12 PM   #2
 
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Chavez is on borrowed time
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:30 PM   #3
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Chavez is on borrowed time
Ya like Castro was after the Cuban Missile crisis. Chavez hates us now and it isn't a good thing if the ruskies start to kiss his AZZ. No more Citgo in the USA they will all be in Russia.[:@]


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Old 09-09-2008, 01:34 PM   #4
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Drill baby drill, and work overtime to develop fuel alternatives and then no one in the U.S.will give a rat's buttox who is in bed with any of the oil producing nuthouses.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:39 PM   #5
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Yup if we can drill, pump and refine our own oil and develope alternatives their stinking oil will be just....dirty water.
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Ya like Castro was after the Cuban Missile crisis. Chavez hates us now and it isn't a good thing if the ruskies start to kiss his AZZ. No more Citgo in the USA they will all be in Russia.[:@]
Well he trumps election law after election law but he is very unpopular in his own country and that situation is a little different then Castros situation. If Chavez lays down martial law different story
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:44 PM   #7
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It is better to think that some ships of the USA have forgotten in the Black sea.
Earlier it was necessary to think, when pushed Georgia on war with Ossetia.
Succession of events gets the uninteresting scenario.







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ANKARA/MOSCOW, September 3 (RIA Novosti) - NATO is continuing to strengthen its naval task force in the Black Sea, a Turkish military source said on Wednesday.
"A U.S. Pathfinder ship has entered the Black Sea," the source said on condition of anonymity.
USNS Pathfinder (T-AGS 60) is an oceanographic survey ship owned by Military Sealift Command and has a civilian crew and scientists on board.
However, a Russian military source told RIA Novosti that ships of the Pathfinder class could be used for reconnaissance and intelligence gathering purposes.
"We have reliable information confirming that the [Pathfinder] ship has arrived in the Black Sea primarily to conduct intelligence gathering operations in support of the NATO naval task group currently deployed in the area," the source said.
NATO sent at least five warships, including guided missile frigates, into the Black Sea after Russia completed its operation "to force Georgia to peace" on August 12.
The operation came as a response to Georgia's attack on South Ossetia on August 8.
Another U.S. warship is expected to arrive in the Black Sea in the next few days, a Russian intelligence source said on Wednesday.
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia will respond calmly to the presence of NATO warships in the Black Sea. (U.S. Coastguard cutter Dallas enters Sevastopol Harbor - Video)
"Our response will be calm, not hysterical, but there will definitely be a response," Putin said. (Russian warships arrive in Abkhazia - Video)
Meanwhile, Admiral Eduard Baltin, a former fleet commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, suggested last week that the NATO naval strike group currently deployed in the area could be destroyed by a single missile salvo within 20 minutes.
"Within 20 minutes the waters would be clear," he said, stressing that despite major reductions, the Black Sea Fleet still has a formidable missile arsenal.
However, Baltin said the chances of a military confrontation between NATO and Russia in the Black Sea were negligible.
"We will not strike first, and they do not look like people with suicidal tendencies," he said.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:11 AM   #8
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MOSCOW, September 9 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Navy remains a strong force capable of repelling any attack by a potential aggressor, a Navy spokesman said on Tuesday.
"The Navy remains a serious deterrent prepared to thwart any threat to Russia's national security, and if necessary provide an adequate response to any act of aggression," Capt. 1st Rank Igor Dygalo said.
Russia announced on Tuesday it will send a naval task group, comprising nuclear-powered missile cruiser Pyotr Velikiy (Peter the Great) and support ships, for a sortie in the Atlantic Ocean, and to participate in joint naval drills with the Venezuelan navy in November. (Russian Pacific Fleet exercise - Image gallery)
Washington immediately responded by mocking the Russian move, which is widely considered a response to NATO's increased naval presence in the Black Sea following a brief military conflict between Russia and Georgia over South Ossetia. (Russian Navy modernized - Image gallery)
U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack jokingly said that if Russia really intended to send ships to the Caribbean, "then they found a few ships that can make it that far."
Commenting on this statement, Dygalo said: "Do not forget that the Russian Navy has nuclear submarines and surface ships capable of conducting training and combat missions anywhere in the world."
For instance, the Pyotr Velikiy is a Kirov (Orlan) class nuclear-powered guided missile heavy cruiser, which has a practically unlimited operational range and carries 20 SS-N-19 Shipwreck surface-to-surface missiles with either nuclear or high-explosive warheads and about 500 surface-to-air missiles of different types, supplemented by a large number of other weaponry.
"The return of the Russian Navy to global oceans is an accomplished fact, whether you accept it or not," the official said.
Russia announced last year that its Navy had resumed, and would build up, its constant presence in different regions of the world's oceans.
A naval task force from Russia's Northern Fleet, consisting of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, the Udaloy-Class destroyers Admiral Levchenko and Admiral Chabanenko, as well as auxiliary vessels, conducted from December 2007 to February 2008 a two-month tour of duty in the Mediterranean Sea and North Atlantic.
The Navy spokesman stressed that Russia has no intention of 'brandishing a stick' and threatening other nations.
"The main goal of the Russian Navy is to ensure the national security of the country; those who attempt to find any secret agenda in the upcoming joint naval exercises between Russia and Venezuela are mistaken," Dygalo said.
"During the drills, ships and naval aircraft will practice coordinated maneuvering, search-and-rescue, and communications," he said, adding that cooperation between foreign navies is normal international practice.
The Russian Navy retained the vast majority of the former Soviet naval forces, and currently comprises the Northern Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Black Sea Fleet, the Baltic Fleet, the Caspian Flotilla, Naval Aviation, Naval Infantry (marines) and coastal artillery.
The collapse of the Soviet Union led to a severe decline in the Russian Navy, but the recent rearmament program until 2015 put, for the first time in Soviet and Russian history, the development of the navy on an equal footing with strategic nuclear forces.
Out of 4.9 trillion rubles ($192.16 billion) allocated for military rearmament, 25% will go into building new ships.
Russia's Navy commander, Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky, said in July that the Navy command had decided to form in the future five or six aircraft carrier task forces to be deployed with the Northern and Pacific fleets.
At present, Russia has only one operational aircraft carrier, the Nikolai Kuznetsov, which was commissioned in the early 1990s and has recently re-entered service after a prolonged overhaul.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:12 AM   #9
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Yep, the US played in Russias back yard: Now Russia is going to be playing in our back yard. The cold war is back on.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:21 AM   #10
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Never ended, did you all really think the Bear would stay hibernating forever? As far back as the 70's the US made statements about the Black Sea and on board our carrier the JFK,CV 67 Captain had to be told NOT to sail into the Black Sea so as not to creae an inceident. Even thought the Black Sea is not Red owned!
Do you think the Russians did not learn how to utilize nad motivate despots over the years? Do you think they did not learn a lesson in dealing in the MidEast after getting a bloody beating? The world is dangerous and people like Bush (yea Bush) are keeping us safe by chasing the tiger on other continents. The world has been learning that militarily we probably can't be beat. But inour quest to be the good guys, bring freedom to the world and make everyone properous and on a Rodney King sing along we have not paid attention to the home front. We need to shore up our infrastructures and take care of ourselves. This is the way we prove how great and productive people can become. If you are self suficient, you don't need to rely on others, but you can then show and share with others your experience and wealth. Leaders lead, not force it down peoples throats.
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