You've read the AP story where Palin said that troops in Iraq are on a mission from God? Well, turns out, that's NOT what she said at all. The AP distorted her quote. And who has the video that shows the correct quote? Of all people, the Huffington Post. [:-]
That's horseshyt. It's obvious that the video was edited to take her words out of context. I like what Uncle Ted was quoted saying about Palin. He may be a little crazy, but he's got his shyt together and knows what America needs. http://www.tednugent.com/hunting/news/2008/default.aspx?PostID=587524
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Out of control? You're kidding, I hope. Palin is getting just an infinitismally tiny taste of the loads of dung that have been dumped on Obama by conservatives. And it's not even a complete lie like nearly all of the stuff thrown at Obama, just an abbreviated quote. She actually did say what the AP quoted. However, it does make me mad that they misrepresented it as a complete quote instead of a partial.
She actually did say what the AP quoted. However, it does make me mad that they misrepresented it as a complete quote instead of a partial.
I'm not sure you can say that she did say what the AP quoted, it was so taken out of context. By the way the AP wrote it, it looks like she said the Iraq war was a mission from God. What she said was we need to pray that it was a mission from God. In other words, we need to pray that it was the right choice. Totally different statements.
And by out of control, I'm talking about the media campaign against Palin. I am not addressing the conservatives' attack against Obama (though I don't think you'll find an organized attack by supposedly credible conservative sources like you've seen against Palin by supposedly credible liberal sources like DailyKOS).
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It's fairly typical behavior by liberals. Many times I have composed an argument here in a debate only to have one of the liberals take one phrase out of context, reply to it and then pat themselves on the back as though they had won the argument.
I think science may ultimately discover a mendacity gene in liberals. It seems like instinctive behavior.
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"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That"s what we have to make sure that we"re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God"s plan."
AP's quote:
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"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That"s what we have to make sure that we"re praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God"s plan."
AP did not use the first sentence of the Huffington quote and removed the words in bold from the second sentence. Where I get off kilter with them is capitalizing 'our', as if that were the first word of the quote, rather than doing a "...our" signifying it was a partial quote. Other than that, the wording - and meaning - is exact.
No matter how you stack the cards, she did say our troops are on a mission from God. Is it a smear? I don't think it rises to that definition at all. Did she open herself up to jokes comparing her to the Blues Brothers? Maybe.
Some people - in fact, Christian conservatives, the very people she was brought into the campaign to appeal to - will praise her for it. Some - those who wouldn't vote Republican anyway - will damn her for it.
It's not a big deal unless somebody tries to make one out of it.
Hah, hah, hah, hah!!! That is pretty funny stuff. It makes me think that the news media and the Democrats are very, very, very afraid of Sarah Palin, to resort to those kinds of feeble attempts at character assassination.
I think an effective McCain/Palin ad would be to (1) ennumerate these rumors and the sources; (2) debunk each of the rumors; and (3) conclude with the admonition, believe nothing that the liberal, mainstream media tells you about Sarah Palin and/or John McCain. Don't bow down to the enslavement of misinformation and bias that the discredited media establishment is cramming down your throat. Wake up and take control of this election and vote for real change. Of course, somehow you have to represent this information succinctly and compress the message into a 30 second spot or 60 second spot. But to me this could be very effective -- particularly if shown during a prime time spot, and particularly if done earlier rather than later. If successful, it would poison the effectiveness of the biased news media throughout the rest of the campaign -- at least for those card carrying Democrats who are drinking the koolaid and who are already a lost cause.
I am 52 years old and not what I would call naieve. But I will admit to being shocked at the abject propagandizing that the big time news media are resorting to in this election cycle. New York Times, Washington Post, National Public Radio. It is really shocking. It crosses the line to pure lies and fabrications. They could, I suspect (I'm not a lawyer), be sued for libel.
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That"s what we have to make sure that we"re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God"s plan."
AP's quote:
Quote:
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That"s what we have to make sure that we"re praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God"s plan."
AP did not use the first sentence of the Huffington quote and removed the words in bold from the second sentence. Where I get off kilter with them is capitalizing 'our', as if that were the first word of the quote, rather than doing a "...our" signifying it was a partial quote. Other than that, the wording - and meaning - is exact.
No matter how you stack the cards, she did say our troops are on a mission from God. Is it a smear? I don't think it rises to that definition at all. Did she open herself up to jokes comparing her to the Blues Brothers? Maybe.
Some people - in fact, Christian conservatives, the very people she was brought into the campaign to appeal to - will praise her for it. Some - those who wouldn't vote Republican anyway - will damn her for it.
It's not a big deal unless somebody tries to make one out of it.
Nope, read it again. She didn't say that they are on a mission from God. She said to pray that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That is entirely different. What she says is that we should pray that our national leaders are doing the right thing. Sometimes you can act believing you are doing the right thing, but still pray that you are, in fact, doing the right thing.
I realize that requiring all members here to take a course in reading comprehension would be impractical. But I think one has an ethical responsibility to read something carefully and attempt to understand it before commenting on it.
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Oh please, let's not quibble over semantics. I used the word 'mission' to draw the parallel where one could make a joke. The Blues Brothers were "On a Mission from God." Maybe you're too young to remember the movie. [&:]
I guess someone's gonna have to explain it to me. How can anyone make this quote into a smear, much less accuse it of being character assassination? Do you think it's an embarrassment to be caught in a quote talking about God? Asking for prayer for our troops and leaders? Makes me wonder how much a Christian you are if you think quoting her on those points is 'character assassination.'
If we're going to be griping about taking stuff out of context, what about picking one quote out of an entire article?
Here it is:
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Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God' By GENE JOHNSON " 2 days ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) " Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will." Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."
A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.
Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.
"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said. "I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded," she added. "But really all of that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart isn't right with God."
Palin attended the evangelical church from the time she was a teenager until 2002, the church said in a statement posted on its Web site. She has continued to attend special conferences and meetings there. Religious conservatives have welcomed her selection as John McCain's running mate.
The Assemblies of God, which claims nearly 3 million members, is one of the biggest Pentecostal groups in the U.S. Unlike most other Christians " including most evangelicals " Pentecostals believe in "baptism in the Holy Spirit." That can manifest itself through speaking in tongues, modern-day prophesy and faith healing. The Assemblies of God teaches that spirit baptism must be accompanied by speaking in tongues. Still, some churchgoers never have the experience.
Rob Boston, a spokesman for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, lamented Palin's comments.
"I miss the days when pastors delivered sermons and politicians delivered political speeches," he said. "The United States is increasingly diverse religiously. The job of a president is to unify all those different people and bring them together around policy goals, not to act as a kind of national pastor and bring people to God."
The section of the church's Web site where videos of past sermons were posted was shut down Wednesday, and a message was posted saying that the site "was never intended to handle the traffic it has received in the last few days."
Frankly, I'd be more concerned about her calling the pipeline "God's will" rather than the quote asking for prayer for the troops.
This is getting out of control
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