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Old 09-04-2008, 07:18 AM   #1
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Default Who do you think each candidate appeal too?

To me, the demograpy breaks down something like this;

McCain appeals to working class America, who believe you get to keep most of what you earn. The kind that feel, when down, you have to pull yourself up by your boot straps and try to make yourself better.

Obama appeals to those so rich his taxes won"™t hurt, or to those who want government to raise them. Giving them an allowance and not making them work. Or to those so blinded by hate for Bush, that they refuse to look at the issues.


Let the games begin.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:27 AM   #2
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Obama also appeals to those who are thoroughly pissed off at what the Republicans have done over the past 8 years, feel betrayed and aren't in any mood to believe a single word they hear from a Republican from now on.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:30 AM   #3
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Obama also appeals to those who are thoroughly pissed off at what the Republicans have done over the past 8 years, feel betrayed and aren't in any mood to believe a single word they hear from a Republican from now on.
So you fall in this crowd;
" so blinded by hate for Bush, that they refuse to look at the issues"

Issues are, McCain is not a typical Republican.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:43 AM   #4
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Obama also appeals to those who are thoroughly pissed off at what the Republicans have done over the past 8 years, feel betrayed and aren't in any mood to believe a single word they hear from a Republican from now on.
I'm close to this.I will not vote for Obama ,as I feel he is in no way what the country needs.
If it were Obama or Bush I'm thinking Canada is looking good.
It will take a long time to get over the Republican disaster that the last eight years have become.
The deceit,corruption and abuse of power that is a common thread in the democratic party,has more than found a home with todays republican party.
The G.O.P. has with stunning speed and relentless pursuit proven for all to see that there is plenty of room at bottom for both parties to share the spoils of todays politics.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:46 AM   #5
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My best guess is a deaf, dumb and blind well digger, 98 years old with cancer and a heart murmer, would getmost of the samepeople's vote that will vote for BHOif he just ran on the Dem ticket.

This country is flat-out spoiled--folks don't get just what they want, or (heaven forbid) get held accountable for their actions (build up more credit card debt than they make in a year, buy a house with payments higher than their monthly income, then wind up loosing their butts), etc. they pitch a fit and wonder why the gov't isn't taking money away from the rich to bail them out. I have yet to see where the Constitution states that those who make wise choices are responsible for those who make stupid ones.

Everything hasn't been exactly rosy the past 8 years, but all things considered it could have been a heck of a lot worse. My biggest gripes are illiegals and gov't spending--I think we have a much better chance of getting one or both of those under control with McCain/Palin. My biggest concern is National Security--again, no contest between which candidates will do a better job.

Lots of folks seem to forget that President Bush isn't running in this election, and will cast their votes for BHO/Biden to vote against Bush. It's ironic to me, because they (BHO and Biden) are both members of a Dem controlledCongress that has the lowest approval rating in history--much lower than President Bush (who, again, isn't in the running to begin with).

Some will vote for BHO because he is "a person of color"--like that's a reason to elect someone POTUS.

Seems to me that 99.99% of those voting Dem won't be voting "for" BHO, but rather against President Bush. What is the world would you be voting "for" with BHO? Hope? Change? Seems to be some really vague platforms to be running on--but that's all he's got. Even a small-town mayor has a much stronger resume' than he could ever offer.

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Old 09-04-2008, 07:56 AM   #6
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So you fall in this crowd;
" so blinded by hate for Bush, that they refuse to look at the issues"
Not entirely. I do have a few issues where I agree with Obama more than McCain. And I think the way McCain tries to ride the fence forces him to lie even worse than a typical Republican. I knew what he was about in 2000. Today, I don't have a clue. When you ask the guy a question and he has to look at his schedule to see which special interest group he's talking to today before he can answer...
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Thosewho want a false sense of security and nebulous changewill vote for Obama, the ones who will end up paying for it will vote for McCain.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:05 AM   #8
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listing constituencies in no particular order

Obama/Biden:Gays, abortion rights supporters, liberals, latinos/latinas, blacks,union workers

McCain/Palin: Gun rights supporters, Christian evangelicals, jewish voters, conservatives

Who/what is left over? Moderates, women voters, blue collar workers

Partly my "left over" results from my uncertainty how these people will vote. I think some women will swing to Obama -- the hard core liberal women -- while some women will swing to McCain -- the hard core conservative women. The left over women are those who are not solidly aligned with either liberalism or conservatism. I personally think these women are going to be very likely picked up by McCain/Palin, but I leave them in the middle. Normally you would expect blue collar workers to side with the democrats, but I don't know. I think they may be up for grab -- at least the non-union workers (I align the union workers with Obama above).

I think there is the risk to Obama that some of his base is in play and can readily be captured by McCain -- blue collar workers, moderate women, jewish vote. I feel there is less likelyhood that McCain's base is in play and can readily be captured by Obama. As I have said elsewhere, because of the dynamics introduced by adding Palin to the ticket, I think this election is McCain's to lose. He has the initiative and the advantage -- some of which is indicated in my analysis above. If he plays his hand at least as well as Obama, McCain will win. If McCain/Palin make some major gaff or some scandal rips them apart, it might be a different story.

Imagine how things would look if the media WERE NOT biased and wearing Obama buttons 24/7?
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