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Old 08-29-2008, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default The "Experience" Issue

Ok guys, clear this up for me.

The republican party has been saying for months how Obama's experience (or lack there of) is one of the main reasons he is not qualified to be president. Ok, point well taken. Then, he goes out and selects Biden as his running mate which was, again, met with criticism. Although Obama chose an elder politician with loads of experience, someone who, if something were to happen to Obama, could step in and readily step in and have the experience to handle the job.

On the other hand, we have John McCain with loads of "experience." Well he he selects a 44 year old with no experience as his VP candidate. If something were to happen to him the country would be left with not only someone with no experience, but with no one by that persons side to help aide them with their little experience.

So, what I'm wondering is how it seems to be OK that Palin has no experience but Obama's "lack" of experience will certainly lead to the demise of this country?
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:59 PM   #2
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She has experience -- 2 years as governor of Alaska. She has established a reputation reducing the influence of lobbyists and fighting corrupt earmarks. I'll take that experience over Obama's sort of experience any day. Additionally, she has some real experience, running a fishing business. Real life experience.

Oh, and I forgot, she isn't running for president, she is a vice presidential running mate. The Republican presidential candidate has how many years of national senate experience? How much experience in our armed forces?
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:03 PM   #3
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Ok guys, clear this up for me.

The republican party has been saying for months how Obama's experience (or lack there of) is one of the main reasons he is not qualified to be president. Ok, point well taken. Then, he goes out and selects Biden as his running mate which was, again, met with criticism. Although Obama chose an elder politician with loads of experience, someone who, if something were to happen to Obama, could step in and readily step in and have the experience to handle the job.

On the other hand, we have John McCain with loads of "experience." Well he he selects a 44 year old with no experience as his VP candidate. If something were to happen to him the country would be left with not only someone with no experience, but with no one by that persons side to help aide them with their little experience.

So, what I'm wondering is how it seems to be OK that Palin has no experience but Obama's "lack" of experience will certainly lead to the demise of this country?
Look at it this way The President is like the boss of a company he needs the experience to run the company like McCain not Obama
The VP is there to do what the Boss or President Needs him or her to do.
So experience is learned from a good boss or President like McCain.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:09 PM   #4
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Your premise is wrong from the start. She has more executive experience than BHO, Biden, or even McCain (mayor, then governor). She has CIC experience--as governor, she was CIC of the AK National Guard. Only two years as governor, but that's two more years thanthe others. She's not just made speaches, but actually acted on her pollitical stances--one reason she was elected governor was due to be a "whistleblower" about the "Bridge to Nowhere" and saving taxpayers gobs of money. She's made quite a reputation for herself--not by her gender, not by her skin color, not by who she is married to--she's made her reputation by her action. Best of all, she IS what BHO claimed--new, fresh, the furthest thing from a Washington insider.

Both Biden and Clinton stated in the primaries BHO was not ready--too inexperienced. Is he just supposed to be a sock puppet for Biden? Has he magically garnered years of experience while on the campaign trail?

BHO's mantra has been "change, change, change". No more politics as usual, etc. etc. etc. Then he picks the #1 pollitical insider in Washington as his running mate--hypocritical, don't you think?

Finally, where did you come up with this?

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...but with no one by that persons side to help aide them with their little experience.
Besides requiring a tradgedy (McCain dying or otherwise not being able to fulfill his duties as POTUS), where do you get the notion that there would be nobody there to help if needed? That makes no sense, just like it makes no sense to nominate (much less elect) a candidate with zero experience for POTUS.
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The republican party has been saying for months how Obama's experience (or lack there of) is one of the main reasons he is not qualified to be president. Ok, point well taken. Then, he goes out and selects Biden as his running mate which was, again, met with criticism. Although Obama chose an elder politician with loads of experience, someone who, if something were to happen to Obama, could step in and readily step in and have the experience to handle the job.
No story is the there was a full court hard press from Biden's camp on Obama to pick him. One the selection itself shows how weak he is and two if it is true about the press as it was writen, it shows how really weak he is.
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On the other hand, we have John McCain with loads of "experience." Well he he selects a 44 year old with no experience as his VP candidate. If something were to happen to him the country would be left with not only someone with no experience, but with no one by that persons side to help aide them with their little experience.
First off, there aren't many out there with VP experience. Secondly, she is only the VP. No one votes for the second on the ticket. They only look at it from a point of reference, did they make a good choice. Base on both comparisons John vs. Obama, hands down McCain wins. He wasn't forced into the pick and it successfully wiped out what like press there was on Obama's speech. Just wait until after this weekend. McCain will get a bounce from this which will show that he made the right choice not the wimp choice like Obama. Secondly, she is only the VP. That's it. McCain has released his health records and has a bill of clean health. Granted that's no guarantee but has Obama fully released his? I'm not sure about that one. We alswo know they are doing all they can to block any reporting/releasing of Obama's records when he worked hand and hand with Aires. We also know Clinton never did and we know Kerry refused to release his military record and Hillary refused to release her White House records. You know what? No one on the left ever calls them on it.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:16 PM   #6
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She has experience -- 2 years as governor of Alaska. She has established a reputation reducing the influence of lobbyists and fighting corrupt earmarks. I'll take that experience over Obama's sort of experience any day. Additionally, she has some real experience, running a fishing business. Real life experience.

Oh, and I forgot, she isn't running for president, she is a vice presidential running mate. The Republican presidential candidate has how many years of national senate experience? How much experience in our armed forces?

No, but she is expected to step in if something were to happen to McCain, say, the first day he is in office.
Real life experience eh? Working on the streets with the underprivileged and passing up on $millions$ to do so, is what, just rubbish?

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Look at it this way The President is like the boss of a company he needs the experience to run the company like McCain not Obama
The VP is there to do what the Boss or President Needs him or her to do.
So experience is learned from a good boss or President like McCain.
Again, what if something happens to Mr. McCain?
And if the president is like running a COMPANY (bad analogy) Obama's credentials certainly outweigh McCains


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The republican party has been saying for months how Obama's experience (or lack there of) is one of the main reasons he is not qualified to be president. Ok, point well taken. Then, he goes out and selects Biden as his running mate which was, again, met with criticism. Although Obama chose an elder politician with loads of experience, someone who, if something were to happen to Obama, could step in and readily step in and have the experience to handle the job.
No story is the there was a full court hard press from Biden's camp on Obama to pick him. One the selection itself shows how weak he is and two if it is true about the press as it was writen, it shows how really weak he is.
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On the other hand, we have John McCain with loads of "experience." Well he he selects a 44 year old with no experience as his VP candidate. If something were to happen to him the country would be left with not only someone with no experience, but with no one by that persons side to help aide them with their little experience.
First off, there aren't many out there with VP experience. Secondly, she is only the VP. No one votes for the second on the ticket. They only look at it from a point of reference, did they make a good choice. Base on both comparisons John vs. Obama, hands down McCain wins. He wasn't forced into the pick and it successfully wiped out what like press there was on Obama's speech. Just wait until after this weekend. McCain will get a bounce from this which will show that he made the right choice not the wimp choice like Obama. Secondly, she is only the VP. That's it. McCain has released his health records and has a bill of clean health. Granted that's no guarantee but has Obama fully released his? I'm not sure about that one. We alswo know they are doing all they can to block any reporting/releasing of Obama's records when he worked hand and hand with Aires. We also know Clinton never did and we know Kerry refused to release his military record and Hillary refused to release her White House records. You know what? No one on the left ever calls them on it.
Obama makes the moves, he's the go-getter, the trend setter, one who can and will lead america in a better direction. Of course McCain made a bold, bold retaliation in chosing Palin, what other choice did he have? To be forgotten in the minds of voters? His advisors aren't that stupid to let him be made into a mockety. McCain's strategy was good, yes, but now he's wiped out one of the few areas where he can attack obama; experience.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:01 PM   #7
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Default RE: The "Experience" Issue

To attack Obama on lack of experience is to point out a well-known fact, the same may be true for attacking Palin,however Hillary supporters are angry about the way they think the media treated Clinton in the election compared to Obama, if the media, or politicians, start trying to hammer her, some Hillary supporters aren't going to be fond of history repeating itself, so they could go for Palin in an attempt to create some new milestone for women's history.
To attack Palin is risky.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:04 PM   #8
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It's funny--your own questions are much more pressing for the Dem. side of the ticket. Biden isn't exactly a spring chicken himself--what happens to BHO if Biden dies/becomes incapacitated?

As I already pointed out, BHO is a rank beginner. Palin has experience that even the senior candidtes don't have. BHO can be a go-getter after the election--he can go get a job from one of his Chicago buds--Rezco or Ayers can probably find a position for him easily enough.

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Alsatian, why do you discredit Obama's experience? He organized a block party once, and realizes that countries are like kids in a street fight, where big ones are threats and small ones like Iran are not!
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Palin has executive experience & has positive results from it. Obama has very little legislative results. It's not just the experience, but also the quality of results.
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