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Old 08-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #1
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http://www.nowpublic.com/world/pelosi-and-pickens-picking-taxpayers-pockets

This is an editorial and for another look at this, in fact the person to cover it here at Now Public, head over to politisite's Why no Drilling? Nancy Pelosi in Bed with T. Boone Pickens.

I started covering this on May 19 of this year with T. Boone Pickens - Environmentalist Suckling at Big Government's Teet. Everything that has happened since then has only made me more sure of myself in this instance. T. Boone Pickens is using the power of the government to make his (and Pelosi's) investments better.



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TV commercials touting a new clean energy strategy and an environmental ballot measure in California have one thing in common: If they succeed, they'll make investors "“ from "big oil" to the U.S. Capitol "“ a lot of money.
The ads champion Texas oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens' "Pickens Plan" to move the U.S. from foreign oil dependence to domestically produced wind power and natural gas fuel for automobiles. The plan is touted as a cleaner, more eco-friendly alternative to our current reliance on coal power and gasoline.
The ballot initiative is California's Proposition 10, known as the California Renewable Energy and Clean Alternative Fuel Act, which would spend $5 billion in California bond money "“ $10 billion by the time the interest is paid, according to the L.A. Times "“ to promote natural gas as an cleaner alternative for automobile and truck fuel.
Not surprisingly, the nation's largest provider of natural gas for transportation, Clean Energy Fuels Corporation, or CLNE, has a great deal to gain from the adoption of Pickens' fuel strategy and the passage of Proposition 10. In fact, according to the California Secretary of State website, CLNE has contributed $3,247,250 to supporting Proposition 10's passage.
CLNE, however, was formerly known as Pickens Fuel after its primary investor, T. Boone Pickens.
While Pickens touts a plan in the name of environmentalism that will also line his company's pockets, a #dontgo investigation has revealed that another environmental champion and backer of Proposition 10 has also invested in CLNE: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California.

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[/align][/align]This is despicable. On the one hand we have a businessman doing what businessmen do - make sure that their company makes as much money as possible; by playing with the government. On the other hand we have one of the democrat's most important leaders, a woman who was supposed to usher in a new way for America when her party took over congress, who is financially benefiting from the government's intervention with the free market.

Here's what Mrs. Pelosi and Mr. Pickens have to gain:



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Pelosi could have purchased around 20,000 shares at $3.86, or $50,000 to $100,000 worth, which are now worth 300% more than their original value.
Nancy Pelosi says that she is trying to save the planet and prevent global warming, but the reality is that, according to disclosure statements, in May 2007 she invested in T. Boone Picken"™s clean energy fuels corp., CLNE, which is the sole sponsor of a proposal in California to funnel $5 billion in state funds and $5 billion in Federal funs to this corporation which will indirectly help them create a giant wind farm in the Texas panhandle.
An overlooked story in November of 2007 shows that the T. Boone Pickens plan involves the private control of water, which Pickens wants to be able to sell to big cities via giant water pipelines which will be built on land seized under eminent domain.

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[/align][/align]So Pelosi and Pickens are going to make a bundle off of this if the people will go along. Hell, folks, this is a lot bigger than I thought it was. I just thought it was about wind farms and the Texas panhandle. It's not. It's about fundamentally altering our nation's energy policy around the investment portfolio of a few people.

It's not just about wind or water or even plain old energy anymore. It is about using the government to boost a few people's (Pickens and Pelosi) investments.



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ickens has not been able to find enough investors to pay for a $110 Billion bond he wants his new "śwater authority"ť to issue, SOhe isnow trying topiggy-back the windmill farm plan on to the water infrastructure development plan"¦so he canuse the money obtained fromthe wind farms (some of which will be state and federal funds, i.e. taxpayer dollars) to pay for the water system infrastructure.
Clear as mud? He"™s using his water district scheme to seize land and his windmill scheme to fund his water scheme. Andyou as a taxpayer aregoing to help pay for it! Aren"™t you excited?!
And again, Pickensalso has the financial and moral support of Nancy "śI"™m Trying toSave the World"ť Pelosi who purchased a large chunk of stock in CLNE on May 25, 2007 in the initial IPO.

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[/align][/align]As of closing time on August 13, 2008 CLNE is at 14.70 per share. This gives the company a market capitalization (which is the theoretical value of the company - to compute multiply shares outstanding by share price) of 651.17 million. Here's a description of the company from Yahoo! Finance:



[blockquote]Clean Energy Fuels Corp. provides natural gas as an alternative fuel for vehicle fleets in the United States and Canada. It designs, builds, finances, and operates fueling stations and supplies compressed natural gas and liquefied natural gas. The company serves approximately 275 fleet customers operating 14,000 natural gas vehicles in public transit, refuse hauling, airports, taxis, seaports, and regional trucking markets. As of December 31, 2007, Clean Energy Fuels Corp. owned and operated 170 natural gas fueling stations in Arizona, California, Colorado, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Washington, Georgia, Wyoming, and Canada. The company was incorporated in 2001 and is based in Seal Beach, California.[/blockquote][/align]
Source: finance.yahoo.com via BigT
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Just looking at some of CLNE's statistics I can see that it is by no means a strong company in its industry. CLNE has negative operating margins, negative net income, negative earnings per share and based on the sales it does have is given a higher valuation than both BP and Exon Mobile [SOURCE]. It just isn't worth what it's worth unless Pickens and Pelosi get their way and the company gets a huge boost through government handouts and intervention through emminent domain.


Does this make anyone else sick? Fear of global warming and buying oil from the Middle East is being used to steal money from Americans. If Pelosi and Pickens get their way they will end up getting billions of dollars through government bonds and billions more through tax credits and the free use of emminent domain to enrich their investments.

The government is just too damn powerful. There's no way the government should have the ability to procure loans and land for businesses. Knowing that this is the situation Nancy Pelosi and T. Boone Pickens are exploiting it to the hilt. They're playing on our fears to make themselves richer.

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Old 08-14-2008, 04:02 AM   #2
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I guess Pelosi's wallet took a hit when it was discovered that she was funneling tens of millions of war-profiteering to her husband's company and she needed to find a new gravy train. She's a low-life scum who ought to be in prison...
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Funny how you raise a very good point, and the first response to your enlightening thread is someone trying to shoot the messenger!

If Pelosi indeed stands to profit from her position on the issue in such a direct way, I think this should lead to her removal! I hope republicans make a commercial out of this!!
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I think the City of Houston tried natural gas fueled garbage trucks at one time. But, it didn't work out. The city was too big, and fuel tanks weren't large enough to hold enough fuel. There are a couple smaller towns in the area that are using natural gas fueled vehicles.

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Folks on the left say "See... Pickens is an oil man and he's pushing alternatives."

No. Pickens is a businessman and he sees an opportunity to get on a bandwagon at a relatively early stage and make another couple of billion dollars. And, note... he's not getting out of the oil business any time soon, so stop thinking he's motivated by altruism.
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You are correct. Natural gas is the ONLY alternative to il we have. The infrastructure isn't completely there but it a lot more than anything else. It allows for semi fast fill ups but certainly doesn't go as far so it's only good for the short commuter back and forth to work. The problem however would be the fight over resources. 38% of our energy comes from oil. 32% comes from natural gas. What are we going to do about moving that 32% off of natural gas so that we can divert it to our fuel tanks? Or do we just not care like we don't care about diverting food off our plate into our gas tanks?
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I remember you (FM) saying that oil/gas is a still a cheap form of energy compared with alternatives. True. I saw an article late last week stating that solar costs about 5 times more per unit of energy than oil/gas. The reason it is being used by store chains on their roofs is the tax incentives they get. Indeed it is true that any viable, cheapalternatives need no incentivesto induce investment and use. The mere factthat there are incentives should raise red flags immediately!

I haven't seen the cost of wind yet, but imagine it is still quite high. Hopefully, these alternatives will come way down in price, but until then, gas is still the best way to go, even on an affordability basis.
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I haven't seen the cost of wind yet, but imagine it is still quite high. Hopefully, these alternatives will come way down in price, but until then, gas is still the best way to go, even on an affordability basis.
Wind is also up there with solar. I posted that a little over a month ago.

I just pulled it back up and guess what doug? You were the first to respond to my thread. Too must lost brain cells perhaps?

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Solar power = $24.34/megawatt hour
Wind = $23.34/megawatt hour
Clean Coal = $29.81/megawatt hour
Normal Coal = $.44/megawatt hour
Natural Gas = $.44/megawatt hour
Hydroelectric= $.67/megawatt hour
Nuclear = $1.59/megawatt hour
Gas = $.25/megawatt hour

That is what everyone is paying today to subsidize these industries according to the EIA. For you who jump on this band wagon and say that is our future, don't complain about what you pay at the pump unless you just don't care what is taken from your pay check each week.

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Wonder how they got Newt Gingrich involved?? I saw him and Pelosi on an eco-friendly commercial together.

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At least his groupies are there to give him an "atta boy"
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