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Old 08-13-2008, 12:56 PM   #1
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Sen. Jeff Bingaman, Rep. Nick Rahall, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other members of Congress who oppose producing more American oil are in a bind.
They know voters are hurting from high gas prices and overwhelmingly want the government to allow more American oil production. But they can't side with the American people and risk upsetting their left-wing base. So they needed a way to make us think they support more drilling - while effectively preventing us from ever drilling a single new well.
They think they've found a solution: a proposed "use it or lose it" law on federal leases for energy exploration. Messrs. Bingaman, Rahall and fellow drilling opponents accuse the oil industry of "sitting on" 68 million acres of "nonproducing" leased land. They want to force energy companies to "use" this leased land within 10 years - or lose all exploration and drilling rights.
America can only hope the proposed law is Mr. Bingaman and Mr. Rahall's clumsy attempt at political jujitsu. The alternative is that the politicians in charge of committees that determine U.S. energy policy are confused and ludicrously disconnected from reality.
First, lease agreements already require timely use of leased land. The 1992 Comprehensive Energy Policy Act requires energy companies to comply with lease provisions, and explore expeditiously, or risk forfeiture of the lease. So the Bingaman-Rahall "solution" effectively duplicates current law.
Second, and more disturbingly, Mr. Bingaman and Mr. Rahall's groundless accusation and proposed legislation rely on the absurd assumption that every acre of land leased by the government contains oil. Obviously, that's not the case.
The truth is, finding oil is a long, complex, cumbersome, expensive process. It starts with an idea - about what kinds of geologic structures are likely to hold this vital resource. Based on that idea, companies purchase leases: agreements that allow them to test their ideas, and hopefully find and produce oil and gas from leased properties.
Then geologists look at existing data and conduct seismic, magnetic and geophysical tests of the leased areas. They create detailed 3-D computer models of what subsurface rock formations look like, and whether there might be any "traps" that could hold petroleum.
Most of the time, all this painstaking, expensive initial analysis concludes that the likelihood is too small to justify drilling an exploratory well, since the cost of a single well can run $1 million to $5 million onshore, and $25 million to $100 million in deep offshore waters. Only 1 in 3 onshore wells finds enough oil or gas to produce profitably; in deep water, only 1 in 5 wells is commercial. Thus, only a small percentage of the leased acres end up producing oil.
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This is important because it means most of those 68 million acres Messrs. Bingaman and Rahall want to force oil companies to drill actually don't have enough oil to make it worth drilling. Either they know that, and are trying to deceive us; or they don't know it, because they haven't done their homework.
Third, if a commercial discovery is made, more wells must be drilled, to delineate the shape and extent of the deposit. Production facilities and pipelines must be designed, built, brought to the site and installed. Only after oil or gas is actually flowing does the lease become "producing."
In one example, Shell Oil and its partners leased an area in 7,800 feet of water 200 miles off the Texas coast. They spent five years exploring and evaluating the area, punched several "dry holes," and finally drilled a discovery well in 2002. Three appraisal wells (at $100 million apiece) confirmed a major field, and in 2006 the company ordered a huge floating platform and pipeline system that will initiate production in 2010. Total investment: more than $3 billion.
That's hardly "sitting on their leases." But those leases will be "nonproducing" until 2010. Clearly, a "use it or lose it" law will not change these hard realities.
Further complications often stymie energy companies from obtaining and using leased land. Every step in the process must be preceded by environmental studies, oil spill response plans, onsite inspections, and permits. The process takes years, and every step is subject to delays, challenges - and litigation.
In the Rocky Mountains, protests against lease sales rose from 27 percent of all leases in 2001 to 81 percent in 2007, according to government and industry records. Numerous additional prospects were never even offered, because land managers feared protests.
The justification used to be endangered species. Now it's climate change - as though U.S. oil causes global warming, but imported oil substitutes do not.
Where leases are issued, seismic and drilling work is often protested. Some years ago, an endangered plant held up drilling - until companies realized the Astragalis was locoweed, which ranchers had been trying to eradicate because it sickens cattle. This year, the excuses are drilling fluids that are 98 percent water and clay - and sage grouse, even though hunters shoot thousands of them every year.
The obstructionist tactics mean hundreds of millions of dollars in lease bonuses and rentals, seismic surveys and other exploration work are in limbo. None of this money was refunded to companies, and no interest is paid to the companies. The money would pay for thousands of wells that drilling opponents say companies refuse to drill.
These lands are nonproducing not because companies are procrastinating but because politicians and bureaucrats have bowed to pressure from radical environmentalists, and refused to issue permits.
We don't need a "use it or lose it" law - or more cheap-rhetoric, big-oil conspiracies. Congress simply needs to allow drilling on the 60 percent of onshore federal oil and gas prospects and 85 percent of Outer Continental Shelf prospects that it has placed off-limits.
Furthermore, instead of a "drill it or lose it" law, we need a "permit or pay" rule:
c When the government sits on permit applications for more than six months, companies no longer have to pay lease rents. Instead, they get interest on their bonus payments and expenses to date, and lease terms are extended.
c When environmental groups lose their legal actions, they pay the companies for the court costs, delays and attorney fees.
When you go to the ballot box this fall, remember who is really behind the outrageous prices you're paying for the energy that makes your job, home, car and living standards possible. Remember the simple solution: Issue leases and permits. Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.
Newt Gingrich is founder of the nonpartisan think tank American Solutions and author of "Winning the Future: A 21st Century Contract with America." Roy Innis is chairman of the Congress of Racial Equality and author of "Energy Keepers Energy Killers: The new civil rights battle."
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:00 PM   #2
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This is important because it means most of those 68 million acres Messrs. Bingaman and Rahall want to force oil companies to drill actually don't have enough oil to make it worth drilling.
Which leads one to ask the question. If these nonproductive acres don't contain enough oil to make drilling feasible, then why do the oil companies pay good money, year after year, to keep the land under lease?

Because the leased land can be listed as an asset under SEC rules. They can show potential investors the large inventory of potential well sites and solicit new investment capital. Maybe?

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In one example, Shell Oil and its partners leased an area in 7,800 feet of water 200 miles off the Texas coast. They spent five years exploring and evaluating the area, punched several "dry holes," and finally drilled a discovery well in 2002. Three appraisal wells (at $100 million apiece) confirmed a major field, and in 2006 the company ordered a huge floating platform and pipeline system that will initiate production in 2010. Total investment: more than $3 billion.
That's hardly "sitting on their leases." But those leases will be "nonproducing" until 2010.
In other words, using that as an example, even if we lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling today it will take some 5 years of exploration and test holes to locate oil, then another 4 years after that before actual drilling takes place (assuming they don't wait an additional 4 years before deciding to order the platform). That doesn't take into account the 2 years or so it takes to process an oil lease before exploration can begin.

So, the writer agrees with Obama that even if we started today there wouldn't be a drop of offshore oil from the current moratorium areas until @ 2020.

And this is supposed to drive down the price of gas today?

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We don't need a "use it or lose it" law - or more cheap-rhetoric, big-oil conspiracies. Congress simply needs to allow drilling on the 60 percent of onshore federal oil and gas prospects and 85 percent of Outer Continental Shelf prospects that it has placed off-limits.
Furthermore, instead of a "drill it or lose it" law, we need a "permit or pay" rule:
c When the government sits on permit applications for more than six months, companies no longer have to pay lease rents. Instead, they get interest on their bonus payments and expenses to date, and lease terms are extended.
c When environmental groups lose their legal actions, they pay the companies for the court costs, delays and attorney fees.
I've got a better idea. Rather than a 'drill it or lose it law,' how about we start enforcing the clause in each lease that says produce in 10 years or you forfeit the lease. And, assuming we continue subsidies to oil companies at all, we say we'll pay out subsidies only if/when we have definitive proof that exploration is actually taking place, or make subsidy payments only for each test well actually drilled.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:49 PM   #3
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This is important because it means most of those 68 million acres Messrs. Bingaman and Rahall want to force oil companies to drill actually don't have enough oil to make it worth drilling.[/blockquote]


Which leads one to ask the question. If these nonproductive acres don't contain enough oil to make drilling feasible, then why do the oil companies pay good money, year after year, to keep the land under lease?

Because the leased land can be listed as an asset under SEC rules. They can show potential investors the large inventory of potential well sites and solicit new investment capital. Maybe?
So and your point is? Wouldn't they have made way more money if they already had wells and were able to sell it at peak price of $140+ (whereever it ended up at)?
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In one example, Shell Oil and its partners leased an area in 7,800 feet of water 200 miles off the Texas coast. They spent five years exploring and evaluating the area, punched several "dry holes," and finally drilled a discovery well in 2002. Three appraisal wells (at $100 million apiece) confirmed a major field, and in 2006 the company ordered a huge floating platform and pipeline system that will initiate production in 2010. Total investment: more than $3 billion.
That's hardly "sitting on their leases." But those leases will be "nonproducing" until 2010.[/blockquote]


In other words, using that as an example, even if we lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling today it will take some 5 years of exploration and test holes to locate oil, then another 4 years after that before actual drilling takes place (assuming they don't wait an additional 4 years before deciding to order the platform). That doesn't take into account the 2 years or so it takes to process an oil lease before exploration can begin.

So, the writer agrees with Obama that even if we started today there wouldn't be a drop of offshore oil from the current moratorium areas until @ 2020.

And this is supposed to drive down the price of gas today?
That would be false. To start off with, we already know demand will rise over the next 20 years and we also know for a fact that there are no alternative energy sources even in the works to replace oil. So let's just forget the fantasy of replacing it. So oil is our energy of choice now and in the future. We already know of several reserves that are off limits and the current gang of 10 plan on keeping it that way. Those barrels could be on the market with in a year. Furthermore, your citing deep water drilling. Shallow water is much easier and quicker to get.

The last line goes against what you've been preaching. Your claiming thehigh oil prices are the work of the speculators and speculators alone. If they know there is soon to be more oil on the market wouldn't they speculate a drop in price?
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We don't need a "use it or lose it" law - or more cheap-rhetoric, big-oil conspiracies. Congress simply needs to allow drilling on the 60 percent of onshore federal oil and gas prospects and 85 percent of Outer Continental Shelf prospects that it has placed off-limits.
Furthermore, instead of a "drill it or lose it" law, we need a "permit or pay" rule:
c When the government sits on permit applications for more than six months, companies no longer have to pay lease rents. Instead, they get interest on their bonus payments and expenses to date, and lease terms are extended.
c When environmental groups lose their legal actions, they pay the companies for the court costs, delays and attorney fees. [/blockquote]


I've got a better idea. Rather than a 'drill it or lose it law,' how about we start enforcing the clause in each lease that says produce in 10 years or you forfeit the lease. And, assuming we continue subsidies to oil companies at all, we say we'll pay out subsidies only if/when we have definitive proof that exploration is actually taking place, or make subsidy payments only for each test well actually drilled.
That is already done today. The brakes they ge to enjoy is writing off some of the expensive drilling and exploration costs against the 3 time their profits in taxes they must fork over each year. It's not as if they just get right offs for doing nothing. I know your greedy (feel you have a right to $.50 gas) and hate big oil but remember they are the ones who are providing the very energy you use to go cash and spendthat SS check your enjoying each month. So enjoy the privlage.
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:17 PM   #4
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Those barrels can be on the market WITHIN A YEAR!??! LOL! You really do live in Fantasyland, don't you.

First off, it'll take time to get those new leases mapped out and, knowing the gov't, it won't happen overnight. Let's just be incredibly, insanely optimistic and hope that maybe the leases will be ready to let within a year (probably be closer to 5 years, since we're talking the gov't). Then we know it takes up to two years to process an oil lease. We know it takes several years to run the siesmic studies to locate potential drilling sites. We know that there is a shortage of jack-up drilling rigs and the ones out there are completely booked for at least the next 5 years solid, not counting time off-line for repairs.

Even in the very best case scenario, you can't possibly imagine that any oil will come from those wells for at least the next 8-10 years at the very earliest.

The oil industry has been talking out of both sides of their face and you've succeded in proving it, though you don't realize you've done so. Thank you.

Nope. I'm not going to forget about replacing oil because, unlike you, I've got a functional brain.
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:22 PM   #5
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Actual lots of times leases are maintained on areas that may never be exploited. Coal companied have leased up large areas of Illinois that they have no intent of attempting to mine in our lifetime. I would assume that the same holds true with oil companies.

I'm still at a loss to understand the big time delay that would occur if drilling was permitted in areas off of Florida that are adjacent to fields that are currentlyproducing in the Gulf.
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The actual time to get plans, research, Ships, Equip, man power, Drill Rigs, Platforms, all the paperworkand channels. There isn't a way that it would help at all in the short term, in the mid-term it wouldn't help because we would not get the oil, and if we did, by regulation only, the amount we have, has already beendecided by the expertsto be a few %worth of our usage. about 2 months worth. There is not enough oil in the ground. We should hold our last pools for war, because that is where we are headed, world war III over energy. Time to get rid of the Republican crime wave.
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Nope. I'm not going to forget about replacing oil because, unlike you, I've got a functional brain.
No you don't seem to have a functional brain because on one hand you admit there isn't a single alternative energy source that will be ready in 10 years. In fact there's nothing that will be ready in 20 years. We are dumping billions and billions of tax payer money down this whole called alternative energy all the while our energy prices are way up our food prices are way up. Yet the one thing that actually is proven to make money for the tax payer and could very well ease the the red tape of many state government is oil. It doesn't cost us one dime to open these leases and allow the oil companies to drill but yet you would much rather cost the tax payer billions more with a leap of faith.

No thank you. Drill here Drill now for energy independence.
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LOLthat's funny FM, I'm beginning to think you might really beleave that.Funny Stuff
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He really does believe it Rainmaker. But then, he's got all kinds of wierd ideas.

He seems to firmly believe in something called 'deep oil' or abiotic oil. This off the wall hypothesis says oil is formed by magma under the earth's crust and it comes flowing forth from fissures created by asteroid impacts. It constantly renews itself, never runs out. Kinda like the Never Ending Shrimp special at Red Lobster. [8D]

Why do wells finally run dry? It isn't because all the oil was pumped out. You see, this deep oil is migratory and when wells stop producing that means the oil has just moved away. All we have to do is chase it around, drilling new holes, hoping to catch up with it again.

The fact that all oil ever found on earth contains fossilized remains of the ancient life from which it formed has absolutely nothing to do with it, even though it totally crushes the hypothesis.
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Well let me ask you this, what happened when my families wells ran dry back in the 50's and today they are now producing again?

However we're not even talking about existing oil wells. We are talking about the vast area of our public land off limits to oil drilling. How stupid is that when American people are hurting and you want to switch to a mythical thing yet to be developed and certainly not less exspensive then $4. gas. We are sitting on well over a trillion barrels on oil here at home yet you prefer we send our money else where. Why is that. Why force higher energy prices when we don't haver to. I have yet to hear a single workable solution from you the Arthur. You proposed electricity and solar but as I already pointed out our power plants, power grid, no battery and time to recharge won't work. Solar also is well above $20 when compared to gas equivalent. So what is it. What will we move to in 10 years?

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