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shut up GW and sit down
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George Bush: "Russia"s actions are unacceptable"
[ 12 Aug 2008 12:36]
Washington " APA. U.S. President George Bush said Russia"s actions against Georgia
were unacceptable, APA reports quoting CNN. Bush also warned Russia against trying to depose Georgia"s government, saying evidence suggests Russia may be preparing to do so.
"These actions have "substantially damaged Russia"s standing in the world", and jeopardize Russians" relations with the United States and Europe," he said.
George Bush said Georgian government had accepted the terms of ceasefire, but Russia had not.
"Russian Government should accept ceasefire as a first step towards solving the conflict", he said.
Aint that some funny stuff ? We invade a soverign nation, overthrow the govt, ravage the landscape, capture/kill just about everyone involved in govt with a deck of 52 and GW has the gall to tell Russia the above ?
Hey GW, how do you think WE look ?
GAWD he is the WORST Pres of all time, no doubt about it ........
He's bad, but William Henry Harrison had been dead for seven years by this point in the Bush presidency and that doesn't make for a very good president. On the other hand, he didn't have a chance to make such huge mess of things, either. Maybe all presidents should die after 40 days - kind of like the fruit flie of the political world. Just enough time to get one or two things done, not enough time to cause any real damage.
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Aint that some funny stuff ? We invade a soverign nation, overthrow the govt, ravage the landscape, capture/kill just about everyone involved in govt with a deck of 52 and GW has the gall to tell Russia the above ?
Hey GW, how do you think WE look ?
GAWD he is the WORST Pres of all time, no doubt about it ........
These two circumstances are completely different, in no way is your point valid if you take into account the circumstances that led to the conflicts.
What do you think he was going to say?? Georgia is our strong ally.
"If he said go kill em all Russia!" You'd have said, "See Bush is a war monger, he's evil"
It doesnt matter what the man does you still hate him. I think its funny when he says something you agree w. yet you have to twist it to make him look bad...
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I'm not a big fan of GW but huntinged is absolutely correct. The 2 situations are nothing alike. GW went to the U.N. regarding a rouge nation and a horrific and brutal dictator and said either you enforce the treatythatSadam himself agreed to at the close of the first gulf war or wewould do it. To say he was in violation of international law is ridiculous, he was enforcing international law not violating it. The russians, on the other hand,after covertly fomenting the civil war in Georgia suddenly invaded a democratic country that was not in violation of any international agreement on the pretense that they feared the civil war might spread and didn't even bother to mention a hint of what they were going to do to the un or anybody else. The real reason of course was no different than when they invaded what is now the czek repuplic, to cow the region into accepting russian dominance. Putin would like nothing better than to see the democracy on his border fail.
No rational person could compare the motives and conclude what Putin did and what GW did were on the same moral plane.
Did I miss something? Can someone post the complaint Russia brought before the UN (joke) for the last 10 years?
BD, your man Obama agrees with you however. We should just let Russia have what they want. It doesn't effect us at all.
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RE: shut up GW and sit down
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These two circumstances are completely different, in no way is your point valid if you take into account the circumstances that led to the conflicts.
US attacks/invades another country
Russia attacks/invades another country
pretty damn similar actually. you can make believe whatever rationale you want to as to WHY the invastion occurred ........ but attacking soverein nation (not self defense, not a reactive attack, rather in INVASION) is right on the money the same thing
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What do you think he was going to say?? Georgia is our strong ally.
say nothing = better to do that than look the fool
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"If he said go kill em all Russia!" You'd have said, "See Bush is a war monger, he's evil"
He IS a war monger, and he's done evil things as far as Iraq is concerned.
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It doesnt matter what the man does you still hate him. I think its funny when he says something you agree w. yet you have to twist it to make him look bad...
when did I do that ?
this is only why GW had done and said - he's bashing Russia for doing what he did - my my how black the kettle is huh ?
These two circumstances are completely different, in no way is your point valid if you take into account the circumstances that led to the conflicts. [/blockquote]
US attacks/invades another country
Russia attacks/invades another country
pretty damn similar actually. you can make believe whatever rationale you want to as to WHY the invastion occurred ........ but attacking soverein nation (not self defense, not a reactive attack, rather in INVASION) is right on the money the same thing
Never happened. We never invade Iraq with out legal backing. ! he refuse to live up to his surrender agreement. 2) he not only refused to live up to his surrender agreement, he lashed out and openly backed terrorism. #) Even though Bush never needed backing form congress to authorized war on Iraq, he got it.
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What do you think he was going to say?? Georgia is our strong ally. [/blockquote]
say nothing = better to do that than look the fool
One ally that stands with us and freedom, your ready to throw under the bus. How sad.
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"If he said go kill em all Russia!" You'd have said, "See Bush is a war monger, he's evil"
He IS a war monger, and he's done evil things as far as Iraq is concerned.
Yeah, he allowed 9/11 to happen, he reimbursded Sadam for his suicide missions and promissed some in heritance when Sadam sent an assisination squad after his father.
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It doesnt matter what the man does you still hate him. I think its funny when he says something you agree w. yet you have to twist it to make him look bad... [/blockquote]
when did I do that ?
this is only why GW had done and said - he's bashing Russia for doing what he did
Once again, please post where Putin went to the UN? How about this, the ultimatum he gave Georgia before he invaded. You do know Sadam only needed to step down to avoid the invaison and that was aqll over the news. I look forward to the cut and paste job your going to do BD. Thank you in advance.
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Saddam had thumbed his nose at U.N. sanctions for years. He kicked out U.N. weapons inspectors or had them delayed at the front door while they trucked contraband out the back door. He did pay blood money to the families of suicide bombers. He did support and help train terrorists. I'm still firmly convinced he had WMD's and snuck them out of the country before the invasion. Probably has the stuff hiding in caves across the border in Syria.
War is as evil as it gets but what we did in Iraq was justified, though Bush's sales pitch to the world sucked. Getting rid of Saddam and those two brutish sons of his made the world a better place, all by itself.
The Iraq war doesn't deserve to be compared to what's going on in Georgia. Not even close.
Big Duane has got it right. The same folkswho rail against theUN are ready to give the bush God a pass for invading Iraq because Saddam dared to diss the damn UN.Thedifference betweentheBush invasion of Iraq andthe invasion of Georgia is that Georgiaborders Russia while Iraq was very far from the US.
shut up GW and sit down
