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Old 08-05-2008, 02:28 PM   #1
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If you keep allowing congress to steal all the money they do each and every year and also allow them to pass stupid laws that grant them even more power over us, then coruption will continue to grow in both parties on the hill with selective enforcement of penalties.

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A MINORITY VIEW
BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, JULY 30, 2008, AND THEREAFTER

Environmentalists' Hold on Congress

Let's face it. The average individual American has little or no clout with Congress and can be safely ignored. But it's a different story with groups such as Environmental Defense Fund, Sierra Club and The Nature Conservancy. When they speak, Congress listens. Unlike the average American, they are well organized, loaded with cash and well positioned to be a disobedient congressman's worse nightmare. Their political and economic success has been a near disaster for our nation.

For several decades, environmentalists have managed to get Congress to keep most of our oil resources off-limits to exploration and drilling. They've managed to have the Congress enact onerous regulations that have made refinery construction impossible. Similarly, they've used the courts and Congress to completely stymie the construction of nuclear power plants. As a result, energy prices are at historical highs and threaten our economy and national security.

What's the political response to our energy problems? It's more congressional and White House kowtowing to environmentalists, farmers and multi-billion dollar corporations such as Archer Daniels Midland. Their "solution," rather than to solve our oil supply problem by permitting drilling for the billions upon billions of barrels of oil beneath the surface of our country, is to enact the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 that mandates that oil companies increase the amount of ethanol mixed with gasoline. Anyone with an ounce of brains would have realized that diverting crops from food to fuel use would raise the prices of corn-fed livestock, such as pork, beef, chicken and dairy products, and products made from corn, such as cereals. Ethanol production has led to increases in other grain prices, such as soybean and wheat. Since the U.S. is the world's largest grain producer and exporter, higher grain prices have had a huge impact on food prices worldwide.

Congress and the environmentalists aren't through with us. If you're bothered by skyrocketing food and energy prices, wait until Congress re-introduces its environmentalist-inspired Climate Security Act, so-called "Cap and Trade." Cap and Trade is deceptively peddled as a free-market solution to the yet-to-be-settled issue of manmade climate change. Under its provisions, companies would be able to emit greenhouse gases only if they had a government allowance. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 15 percent cut in emissions would raise the annual average household's energy costs by $1,300. Since energy is an input to everything we use, we can expect everything to become more costly, resulting in a reduction in economic growth.

There's a hateful side to Cap and Trade that's revealed by asking the question: How will it be decided who received how much allowance to emit greenhouse gases? Congress could sell the allowances and/or give them away to favorite constituents. You can bet the rent money that a new army of lobbyists, with special pleadings, will descend on Washington to lobby Congress. And you can be sure that campaign contributions and favoritism will play an important role in the decision of who received what amount of allowances.

Much worse than that is the massive control government would have over our economy and our lives. Congress might decide that since tobacco use is unhealthy, it might not issue allowances to tobacco companies. While many Americans might applaud that, how many would like Congress to refuse to issue allowances to companies that produce foods that some people deem unhealthy such as French fries, sodas, canned soups and potato chips. Congress might deny, or threaten to deny, allowances to companies that in their opinion didn't hire enough women and minorities. The possibilities for control over our lives would be endless and could include nuisance-type edicts such a requiring us to buy a permit to barbeque in our backyard.

The thirst to wield massive control over our economy helps explain the near religious belief in manmade global warming and the attacks on scientists and others who offer contradictory evidence.

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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Old 08-05-2008, 02:37 PM   #2
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Don't forget that Cap and Trade is a centerpiece of McCain's proposed energy/environmental plans. Obama's too. Looks like Bob Barr is your only alternative to cap and trade this time around.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:46 PM   #3
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Not near as good an article as last time FM. Tell me, how do these groups have a better position to lobby for their interests than the oil companies do?? Nobody has more money and power then them. Who has influence over the executive branch?? granola eaters or Texas tea?? Who controlled washington for 6 out of the last 8 years??

Perhaps these environmentla groups don't have our best interest at heart. Who does??
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:24 AM   #4
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Tha nature conservacy is a bad group? I hang out on land they made public on Lake Ontario all the time. They also allow hunting on most of the land they own.

Good point Hillbilly,
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Who controlled washington for 6 out of the last 8 years??
Remember it passed out of the house twice while they had controled and it was blocked by the environmentalist in the senate where it died.

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Yeah, they have their own interest at heart. Did you know they allow drilling on their own property?

FYI charlie, drilling doesn't screw up any of your hunting. If you liked to hunt carabo, remember the pipeline increases in the calf births and a swelling of their population. The exact opposite of what they said would happen.
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Remember it passed out of the house twice while they had controled and it was blocked by the environmentalist in the senate where it died.
What did?? that article wasn't about specific legislation, but about systematic kowtowing to enviros. Are they more powerful then the oil companies as far as lobbying??

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So does everybody else. Like charlie, I've seen the nature conservancy do some pretty good things especially in protecting watersheds.
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Remember it passed out of the house twice while they had controled and it was blocked by the environmentalist in the senate where it died.
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What did?? that article wasn't about specific legislation, but about systematic kowtowing to enviros. Are they more powerful then the oil companies as far as lobbying??
Tapping into ANWR.
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So does everybody else. Like charlie, I've seen the nature conservancy do some pretty good things especially in protecting watersheds.
What exactly is the problem of drilling a little hole in the ground and tapping into vast amounts of oil? Drilling in ANWRis comparableto disturbing a postage stamp size area on a football field.
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Tap Anwr if you want to I wasn't talking about that was I???


I don't think it will solve anything, but that's my opinion.

seems like you have an agenda with this thread and don't really want to talk about the actual article that you posted. If so, fine, but you didn't have to go thru that trouble then...sheesh
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Tap Anwr if you want to I wasn't talking about that was I???


I don't think it will solve anything, but that's my opinion.
No your right, more oil on the market would be a bad thing.
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seems like you have an agenda with this thread and don't really want to talk about the actual article that you posted. If so, fine, but you didn't have to go thru that trouble then...sheesh
I do have an agenda with this thread. I would like to remove the power of Congress by reducing the money they control. The enviromental lobby is the worst of all right now. They have brought this country to it's knees by not allowing drilling and is getting ready to kick us in the family jewels with this cap and trade scheme. Fortunately there may be enough senators not willing to kill their local industry to enact it. Just like it got killed this last spring.
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I would like to remove the power of Congress by reducing the money they control.
Great. Where do I sign???


THen you can sign my petition to enact term limits on all elected officials, deal??

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The enviromental lobby is the worst of all right now. They have brought this country to it's knees by not allowing drilling and is getting ready to kick us in the family jewels with this cap and trade scheme. Fortunately there may be enough senators not willing to kill their local industry to enact it. Just like it got killed this last spring.
I understand. You think oil, was, is, and will be the answer.
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