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Old 07-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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The economy showed the depth of its twin problems on Tuesday, slow growth and rising inflation, as the nation wrestled with a teetering financial system, a slumping dollar and rising prices for food and fuel.
The Labor Department reported that soaring costs for gasoline and food pushed inflation at the wholesale level up by a bigger-than-expected 1.8 percent in June, leaving inflation rising over the past year at the fastest pace in more than a quarter-century.
Over the past 12 months, wholesale prices are up 9.2 percent, the largest year-over-year surge since June 1981, another period when soaring energy costs were giving the country inflation pains.
Core inflation, which excludes energy and food, was better behaved in June, rising by just 0.2 percent, slightly lower than expectations.
A separate report from the Commerce Department showed that all the economy's problems were weighing on the consumer. Retail sales edged up by a tiny 0.1 percent in June, weaker than had been expected, as consumer spending was held back by a sharp plunge in sales at auto dealerships.
U.S. stocks headed for a sharply lower open as the reports on inflation and retail sales failed to cool concerns about the financial sector. Banking stocks were pounded on Monday despite the government's efforts to calm concerns with a support package fashioned over the weekend for mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Tuesday that the fragile economy was being confronted by "numerous difficulties" including persistent strains in financial markets, rising joblessness and housing problems. He said rising prices for energy and food were elevating the risks of inflation.
Delivering his midyear economic report to the Congress, Bernanke said the current situation poses "significant challenges" for Fed policymakers as they try to chart the best course for keeping the economy growing, while making sure inflation doesn't dangerously flare up.
The Fed signaled an end to an aggressive rate-cutting campaign in June because of growing concerns about inflation. Bernanke kept up his tough anti-inflation talk on Tuesday but stressed many other problems that could short circuit economic growth.
In a third economic report, the Commerce Department said business inventories rose at a slower-than-expected pace in May, a possible indication that the weakening economy is making companies cautious on their restocking plans.
The department said inventories held on shelves and backlots edged up 0.3 percent in May, smaller than the 0.5 percent gain that many economists had been expecting. It was the smallest monthly increase since inventories had risen just 0.2 percent in April.
Many economists are worried that a host of problems from a lengthy slump in housing to a severe credit crunch could push the country into a recession. But so far, the overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, has managed to stay in positive territory, helped in part by companies rebuilding their inventories.
For June, energy prices at the wholesale level shot up by 6 percent; the price of unleaded regular gasoline surged by 9 percent following an even bigger 9.6 percent increase in May.
The 0.1 percent rise in retail sales was even weaker than the 0.4 percent gain that analysts had been expecting.
That small rise reflected a 3.3 percent drop in sales at auto dealerships, offsetting a big 4.6 percent jump in sales at gasoline stations, an increase that largely mirrored last month's huge jump in pump prices.
General Motors said Tuesday that it plans to lay off salaried workers, cut truck production and suspend its stock dividend, showing the depth of the U.S. auto industry's mounting troubles as it adjusts to a declining U.S. market.
GM said it would also borrow $2 billion to $3 billion as part of an effort to raise $15 billion to help turn around its North American operations.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:50 AM   #2
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i thought many here said ouir economy was GOOD ??
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:53 AM   #3
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I'm gonna have to see far fewer Help Wanted signs and ads around here before I will buy into the fact that it is bad.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:54 AM   #4
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Lanse, What type of jobs?

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:01 PM   #5
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When was the last time we saw lines of people taking their money out of banks?

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:02 PM   #6
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Wide range. Several places on my drive into work have signs out advertising for the usual counter help as well as entry level management positions. Lots of stuff in the area of manufacturing, skilled trades, nursing/health, education. They are practically screaming for truck drivers. Not saying that things are booming, but the only people that I know who aren't working are the ones that don't want a job.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:25 PM   #7
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University of Md needs police officers starting pay just under 40k with a 3k signing bonus. Read that while I was eating some blue crabs last week. I know right now of several dental proffesion jobs open right now. I'm also constantly bombarded with new job offers but those are lowerskilled sales jobs that max out around 75 to 100k.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:28 PM   #8
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I came of age in southern Illinois when agriculture, local manufacturing, and the oil industry all went down the toilet at about the same time. I went out into a job market in a county where the unemployment rate was 15 to 20 percent, and that was with people leaving in droves. So, I know bad when i see it. And this aint bad, at least in the areas that i am familiar with.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:11 PM   #9
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I came of age in southern Illinois when agriculture, local manufacturing, and the oil industry all went down the toilet at about the same time. I went out into a job market in a county where the unemployment rate was 15 to 20 percent, and that was with people leaving in droves. So, I know bad when i see it. And this aint bad, at least in the areas that i am familiar with.
Yes, and what was the mortgage interest rate back then, circa 1980? About 16% I seem to recall. Not so bad now.

It seems people have something invested in declaring the economy in the toilet. I'm not sure I get it. Bush bashing? And there isn't any real measure to their proclamations. You really would think it was the worst we have seen in this country. Well, I'm here to tell you, it has been a lot worse. I graduated from college in Illinois in 1981 -- first degree -- and the economy really DID suck back then. High unemployment (the term the "rust belt" was coined back then for the manufacturing sector up there in the midwest), high inflation, high interest rates.

With respect to the run on IndyBank, I guess NY Senator Charles Shumer had a mighty hand in that. I guess he sent a letter to some government agencies alleging IndyBank is insolvent . . . and then he published the letter! I guess just about any US senator can start a run on a bank if he degrades the bank in that fashion. Pretty unusual move. I don't think this will be the last you hear about that.
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Yea but gas prices are so high!!! Bush must be an idiot, because its all his fault...
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