Cities Anticipating Lawsuits Over Heller

[falcon]

San Francisco and Chicago are whining that they are in the sights of the NRA because of their anti-gun laws. The DC mayor and police chief are predicting that blood will run in the streets.

I want to see the NRA sue NY City.Will benice to seeBloomberg groveling, whining and caterwauling.

Katie Couric is a dedicated anti but she did hit DC mayor Fenty pretty hard yesterday:

Mr. Mayor, I was very surprised to learn today that the District's handgun ban is 32 years old. Given that, why does your city continue to be one of the most dangerous places in the nation?

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ORIGINAL: falcon

San Francisco and Chicago are whining that they are in the sights of the NRA because of their anti-gun laws. The DC mayor and police chief are predicting that blood will run in the streets.

I want to see the NRA sue NY City.Will benice to seeBloomberg groveling, whining and caterwauling.

Katie Couric is a dedicated anti but she did hit DC mayor Fenty pretty hard yesterday:

Our governor predicted that when Michigan passed shall issue. This is spite of the fact that several states already had shall issue with only positive effect. These anti-gun people are not really uninformed. They are LIARS WITH AN AGENDA.

[salukipv1]

Is chicago totally gun free? or only handgun free?

I know years ago a hunter I had heard you were suppose to register all of your firearms....if living in the city.

I'm assuming many hunters never registered and kept their guns anyway.

Recent news cast said how chicagos crimes, violent gun crimes are most often executed using handguns not rifles,machine guns etc.....its like? c'mon, NO SHEET! those kids/gangbangers etc...will always have guns to commit crimes, we don't have a concealed or open carry in this state, so any gangbanger/person stopped and caught carrying is a serious violation, so just saying no handguns takes guns out of law abiding citizens.

I'm curious how many gun arrests were made by breaking into someones home and finding an unregistered pistol?

im sure all arrests are made when individuals are stopped and found in possesion...whether on their body or in their car etc...

[Alsatian]

Falcon: RE: Chicago and San Francisco whining -- I guess that comes with the territory when you pass unconsitutional laws. There is an easy solution -- disassemble your law in the light of the recent court decision. Easy. I don't know what the precise form and substance of this kind of action would be, but it must have happened before and it must be easy. It isn't necessary to draft new language, just null existing language. If they want to draft some substitute gun legislation, let them have at it, but that does not get in the way of scuttling the existing and unconstitutional existing law. I bet the litigants would stand down from their law suits if this reasonable accommodation were made by Chicago and San Francisco.

[Alsatian]

ORIGINAL: falcon

The DC mayor and police chief are predicting that blood will run in the streets.

That, of course, seems silly. The DC law banned hand gun ownership of any kind and maintenance of fully assembled weapons in the home (paraphrasing). Disabling the DC law does not give license to freely carrying loaded guns around the streets of DC -- that is ridiculous scare tactics. All the court said was you can't have a law that prohibits a normal DC citizen having a handgun in his home and having weapons assembled in his home. Sure, if there is a blood bath, it will likely be illiterate criminals who don't keep abreast of the supreme court decisions invading the homes of otherwise law abiding DC citizens.

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People put them there.

[bergall]

ORIGINAL: Alsatian

That, of course, seems silly.Â* The DC law banned hand gun ownership of any kind and maintenance of fully assembled weapons in the home (paraphrasing).Â* Disabling the DC law does not give license to freely carrying loaded guns around the streets of DC -- that is ridiculous scare tactics.Â* All the court said was you can't have a law that prohibits a normal DC citizen having a handgun in his home and having weapons assembled in his home.Â* Sure, if there is a blood bath, it will likely be illiterate criminals who don't keep abreast of the supreme court decisions invading the homes of otherwise law abiding DC citizens.

It's an almost unversal phrase of the gun-banners when they've had their BS gun laws shoved down their throats.
I remember when Florida relaxed its posession laws to accomodate 'open carry' and 'shall issue', we were supposed
to be swimming in the blood of innocents. Instead, violent crime decreased with the increase in firearms licensees.

As as aside, sueing NYC would be counter-productive and a waste of money that can be better spent in other areas. They have not banned firearms, other than ersatz 'assault weapons'. I held a NYC 'Target/Hunting' permit for over 10 years with no issues. "Concealed Carry' permits can also be had, but few can stand up to the scrutiny (Income tax audit for the last 7 years for businesses, and a 'show need' requirement for others). Still, there's no 'outright ban'. So that being said, the next step is to lobby for AND GET, a federal definition of what 'REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS' or "REASONABLE REGULATION" entails, beyond which local municipalities may not go. Surely, an argument can be made that an over-regulated application process to exercise a 'right' can be seen as 'abridgement' of the rights afforded under Article II. Also, many licenses hinge on the discretion of the 'issuing authority'...so if the police commissioner don't like you, you're denied...if you're a buddy of his, you get to carry. Discretion reeks and the process should be OBJECTIVE rather than subjective.....