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Old 06-02-2008, 07:39 AM   #1
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Are you mad about gas prices today? You haven't seen anything yet. Congress doesn't feel you pay enough for your energy and/or the products you use around the house.

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Cap and Spend
June 2, 2008
As the Senate opens debate on its mammoth carbon regulation program this week, the phrase of the hour is "cap and trade." This sounds innocuous enough. But anyone who looks at the legislative details will quickly see that a better description is cap and spend. This is easily the largest income redistribution scheme since the income tax.
Sponsored by Joe Lieberman and John Warner, the bill would put a cap on carbon emissions that gets lowered every year. But to ease the pain and allow for economic adjustment, the bill would dole out "allowances" under the cap that would stand for the right to emit greenhouse gases. Senator Barbara Boxer has introduced a package of manager's amendments that mandates total carbon reductions of 66% by 2050, while earmarking the allowances.
When cap and trade has been used in the past, such as to reduce acid rain, the allowances were usually distributed for free. A major difference this time is that the allowances will be auctioned off to covered businesses, which means imposing an upfront tax before the trade half of cap and trade even begins. It also means a gigantic revenue windfall for Congress.
Ms. Boxer expects to scoop up auction revenues of some $3.32 trillion by 2050. Yes, that's trillion. Her friends in Congress are already salivating over this new pot of gold. The way Congress works, the most vicious floor fights won't be over whether this is a useful tax to create, but over who gets what portion of the spoils. In a conference call with reporters last Thursday, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry explained that he was disturbed by the effects of global warming on "crustaceans" and so would be pursuing changes to ensure that New England lobsters benefit from some of the loot.
Of course most of the money will go to human constituencies, especially those with the most political clout. In the Boxer plan, revenues are allocated down to the last dime over the next half-century. Thus $802 billion would go for "relief" for low-income taxpayers, to offset the higher cost of lighting homes or driving cars. Ms. Boxer will judge if you earn too much to qualify.
There's also $190 billion to fund training for "green-collar jobs," which are supposed to replace the jobs that will be lost in carbon-emitting industries. Another $288 billion would go to "wildlife adaptation," whatever that means, and another $237 billion to the states for the same goal. Some $342 billion would be spent on international aid, $171 billion for mass transit, and untold billions for alternative energy and research "“ and we're just starting.
Ms. Boxer would only auction about half of the carbon allowances; she reserves the rest for politically favored supplicants. These groups might be Indian tribes (big campaign donors!), or states rewarded for "taking the lead" on emissions reductions like Ms. Boxer's California. Those lucky winners would be able to sell those allowances for cash. The Senator estimates that the value of the handouts totals $3.42 trillion. For those keeping track, that's more than $6.7 trillion in revenue handouts so far.
The bill also tries to buy off businesses that might otherwise try to defeat the legislation. Thus carbon-heavy manufacturers like steel and cement will get $213 billion "to help them adjust," while fossil-fuel utilities will get $307 billion in "transition assistance." No less than $34 billion is headed to oil refiners. Given that all of these folks have powerful Senate friends, they will probably extract a larger ransom if cap and trade ever does become law.
If Congress is really going to impose this carbon tax in the name of saving mankind, the least it should do is forego all of this political largesse. In return for this new tax, Congress should cut taxes elsewhere to make the bill revenue neutral. A "tax swap" would offset the deadweight taxes that impede growth and reduce employment. All the more so because even the cap-and-trade friendly Environmental Protection Agency estimates that the bill would reduce GDP between $1 trillion and $2.8 trillion by 2050.
Most liberal economists favor using the money to reduce the payroll tax. That has the disadvantage politically of adding Social Security into the debate. A cleaner tax swap would compensate for the new tax on business by cutting taxes on investment "“ such as slashing the 35% U.S. corporate rate that is the second highest in the developed world. Then there's the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, which are set to expire in 2010 and would raise the overall tax burden by $2.8 trillion over the next decade. Democrats who want to raise taxes on capital gains and dividends are proposing a double tax wallop by embracing Warner-Lieberman-Boxer.
All of this helps explain why so many in Congress are so enamored of "doing something" about global warming. They would lay claim to a vast new chunk of the private economy and enhance their own political power.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:25 AM   #2
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Democrats want to raise taxes
This is what the whole thing boils down to. Slimeball Socialist Scum figuring out innovative new ways to forcibly seize more money out of our pockets... Frankly, I don't see how anyone could vote for one of these vermin.
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...as opposed to Slimeball Imperialist Scum, figuring out innovative new ways to forcibly seize more money out of our pockets and wreck the entire planet simultaneously... Frankly, I don't see how anyone could vote for one of these vermin.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:53 AM   #4
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...as opposed to Slimeball Imperialist Scum, figuring out innovative new ways to forcibly seize more money out of our pockets and wreck the entire planet simultaneously... Frankly, I don't see how anyone could vote for one of these vermin.
Actually, the Slimeball Imperialist Scum gave us tax breaks in 2001 and 2003, and their candidate is proposing additional tax reductions.

And, I'm looking out the window of my downtown Houston office, and the planet, from here, looks pretty darn nice today. We no longer have the layer of brown air that plagued the city when I first arrived in the early 80's and on through the 90s...
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...as opposed to Slimeball Imperialist Scum, figuring out innovative new ways to forcibly seize more money out of our pockets . . .
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:53 PM   #6
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...as opposed to Slimeball Imperialist Scum, figuring out innovative new ways to forcibly seize more money out of our pockets . . .
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Wait, wait, wait... I thought that the tax cuts were ONLY "for the wealthiest 10% of Americans." [typed in my best Algore monotone...]
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That 10% covers a lot of ground. Around here 90% make less than 45K. That would put someone making 46K in the top 10% for our area. There are huge numbers of people making very little money, and each one of them counts just as much as a billionaire when you figure out percentage of the population. Most people hear that 90% number and think it won't affect them. Many are mistaken.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:22 PM   #8
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As of 2005, in order to be in the top 10%, you had to be making over $103,000 per year...

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And, I'm looking out the window of my downtown Houston office, and the planet, from here, looks pretty darn nice today. We no longer have the layer of brown air that plagued the city when I first arrived in the early 80's and on through the 90s...
Do you see that big hole in the Ozone or is it looking pretty good as well.
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As of 2005, in order to be in the top 10%, you had to be making over $103,000 per year...

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
Here that sounds like a lot of money, but in places like NYC or Denver, that's not so much money. We have some friends in McKinney, Texas who just paid their property tax bill of over $6000. I could pay my house payments here for less than that for the whole year. $103,000 includes a lot of middle-class people.
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