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Old 05-28-2008, 10:21 AM   #1
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I would urge everybody to check out Newt Gingrich's American Solutions website. There is an online petition on there to sign & push Congress to get going...DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS. www.americansolutions.com
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:11 AM   #2
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:02 AM   #3
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:31 AM   #4
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How will the price drop until we get more refineries? Our refineries are at maxuim production aren't they?

The oil pumped from our own shores will also be priced according to the world market won't it? Or do you think our oil companies are going to do what's bad for their share holders and take less profit?

Do you really think Congress will pay attention to an internet petition?
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:04 AM   #5
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Newt had his chance. He does not deserve another one.
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Charlie is right, Even under the most optomistic (and realistic) scenarios, any oil fields found in Alaska or anyplace in the U.S. are going to be small by Persian Gulf standards and will have no impact on the price of oil which is a fungable globally traded commodity. We have to face the fact that through an accident of geology 80 million years ago in the Cretacious Period, the truly gigantic accumulations ofoil appear to have taken place in what is now the Middle East. As a result, the people who live there now can set the price of oil and the oil companies are not going to sell what oil they can produce in the U.S. at less than theOPEC rate.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:04 AM   #7
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The info I've read has indicated that there are vast oil reserves present (ANWAR, off the Florida coast plus oil shale in Colorado). Some estimates say there is enough oil to supply US requirements for two hundred years...as much or more that's found in Saudia Arabia and some other OPEC areas. Obviously, we would need additional refineries. No new ones have been built in over thirty years (I believe is the correct time frame). Refineries haven't been built largely due to goobermint / "pseudo-environmentalist" restrictions.

No, I don't think an internet petition will sway Congress. But it may help garner attention. Maybe get the ball rolling. Just look what happened when the masses stepped in an ended the recent immigration initiative that was being pushed by Congress. Some just want to sit back and b@#*^ about gas prices, etc. If (after nothing has been done for years) this HELPS to light a fire under the politicians butts, what's it hurting?

I'd also think that if / when we start heading towards oil independence, the OPEC goons will see the writing on the wall. All our politicians have done for decades is provide lip service. Maybe, just maybe, if we actually did start now, within a few years an impact could be felt. Or, we can just sit around, cry and moan for the next 10 years. Then when the price is $10-12 a gallon people may wake up.

At least Newt is trying to be part of a solution rather than being part of the problem. Have you heard anybody else cough up any doable suggestions lately? Wind, bio-fuels, solar, hydrogen, etc. are well and good, but not nearly enough. Worldwide demand is skyrocketing. Everybody says we need oil independence, but then nothing further happens. Been that way since Jimmy Carter for sure. Rember gas rationing...odd and even licenses for gas fill-ups? It just may get to that again very soon.

There's a difference between oil companies profits and their profit margins. Why should the government be in the business of setting "acceptable" standards? Who will set these numbers and based on what? This government interference is nothing more than political grandstanding. Have you checked into profit margin numbers for other businesses lately? How about your local bank.? Rest assured it's more than the 8-10% that the oil companies make. The problem is Congress and political BS. If I've got to pay top dollar for gas / oil, I'd rather not be paying OPEC and the similar goons that want to see the US go bye-bye.

What's the old saying... either do something or get out of the way???

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What's the old saying... either do something or get out of the way???
I guess we're a little crass. Here in Texas, it's s#!t or get off the pot...
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:35 AM   #9
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Now Newts trying to do something, how long was he in Congress?

Oil companies 8-10 profit margins doesn't include the salaries and stock options to the fat cats does it? Then the why tax payers to give themmoney for R&D.

I would rather pay someone other then OPEC just don't think you'll see the price come down.
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If (after nothing has been done for years) this HELPS to light a fire under the politicians butts, what's it hurting?
If you also feel it won't help(the petition) how do you think it will light a fire under politicians butts? You don't think they already know the American public is pissed?


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Everybody says we need oil independence, but then nothing further happens
Hmmm wonder why that might be.

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