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Old 05-21-2008, 03:12 PM   #1
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/05/21/costly.cookouts.ap/index.html


Food inflation is the highest in almost two decades, driven by record prices for oil, gas and mounting global demand for staples

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Percent change of average price increase from 2007 [/i]1 lb. beef ... 1.1 percent 8-hotdog pack ...6.7 percent 8 burger buns...16.7 percent 8 hot dog buns...14.5 percent 1 lb. American cheese...4 percent 1 lb. Tomatoes... 8.6 percent 1 lb. Lettuce... 9.1 percent 16-ounce bag of chips...11.8 6-pack of beer... 1.2 percent Soda, 2-liters... 10.8 percent 16.4-oz Propane cartridge...8 percent Lighter fluid... 3.4 percent Charcoal...1.4 percent Ketchup..8 percent Mustard...2.1 percent Mayonaise...13.1 percent Salad dressing...6 percent Jar of pickles...4.9 percent Paper plates...13.8 percent Napkins...3.8 percent


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if you know how to manage your credit cards, get a Kroger card (King soopers, etc). You will get cash back from 1%-4% + save on weekly specials.

now, couple this with http://www.thegrocerygame.com/

example - this week, using Sunday paper coupns, you can get

pure protein bars for .25 each
suddenly salad mix for 0.50 each
Lawry marinade for 0.67 each
Franks redhot sauce FREE
Revlon nail clippers FREE


I'm a family head with 9 and 7 year olds. I do all our shopping and my grocery bill is probably $60 a week maybe. I shop savvy, from Kroger to Wal-mart, I rarely buy without having a coupon for it, I buy in bulk, I vaccuum seal, we rarely buy pre-made meals ...... just FYI to try and get us through this recession and yeah, thats what it is, GW has drove this country to its knees [X(]
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:58 PM   #2
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I agree the same seems to be widespread. Bush is nearing the end, so get ready for some heavy spending to round out the term.
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I agree the same seems to be widespread. Bush is nearing the end, so get ready for some heavy spending to round out the term.
I ROTFLOL every time I read one of your posts. You're still stuck on this Bush spending mantra (which, by the way, your statement is based on nothing but blind assumption) and all the while you're planning to vote for a presidential candidate who has promised billions in additional spending overseas. You're a hoot.

Big Duane, damn, I knew Bush was a powerful man, but I didn't know he was this powerful. He's responsible for the world's rising food prices now? Even the Democrats haven't blamed him for that (yet). You might want to send Howard Dean a memo.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:12 PM   #4
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Griswold - everything revolves around rising oil/gas/diesel prices my friend

GW is directly responsible for that because of his invasion of the middle eastern country of Iraq. They hate us (if you didn't know that) all of them, and they'll laughing their asses off at (A) making billions while (B) America falls to its knees.

You think its going to get better? Wait until this winter, heating oil prices go through the roof all the while we continue to see rises in consumer goods as a direct result of continued rising fuel costs

Pray a Democrat wins in November and gets us out of Iraq ASAP, because this country is teetering on total collapse right now []
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Big Duane, damn, I knew Bush was a powerful man, but I didn't know he was this powerful. He's responsible for the world's rising food prices now? Even the Democrats haven't blamed him for that (yet). You might want to send Howard Dean a memo.
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No, not the rising food prices, but he sure as heck is repsonsible for a weak dollar, which has been part of his platform/policy for years. It's not just that oil prices are higher, it's that YOUR dollar is now worth less than a Canadian dollar for the first time that I can ever remember.

He is also responsible for cutting taxes in a time of war which forced us to turn to selling treasuries to China (who we know compete with for oil, and who knows, we may be at Peak Oil..but I doubt it) to finance this war, instead of raising or at least maintainingtaxes like every other President in a time of war. As such, China likes our weak dollar because we tend to buy less cheap China junk when our dollar is stronger. Of course Greenspan screwed up big time and no one saw the housing credit crunch coming, now China is afraid our dollar will fall too low. If that happens, they bail out of the treasuries, then the crap really hits the fan. That means we are essentially in stagflation, yes, Bush is officially as bad as Jimmy Carter, and we cannot lower interest rates.


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Old 05-21-2008, 07:44 PM   #6
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GW is directly responsible for that because of his invasion of the middle eastern country of Iraq. They hate us (if you didn't know that) all of them, and they'll laughing their asses off at (A) making billions while (B) America falls to its knees.
I hate to question a fellow's intelligence, but good grief. Are you still riding that line about the Iraq war being the reason oil prices are high? That has been soundly debunked by several different people using rock-hard data that clearly indicates oil prices would be surging right now even if not for the war.

AlaskaMagnum, a slight correction: Washington as a whole is responsible for the weak dollar. It sure as hell hasn't improved since the Democrats took over Congress a January ago. Let's make no mistake: Congress controls spending. If they want to cut it, they can. And that was a major part of the Democrats' platform in '06. Instead, spending has increased even more. Bush spends money like he wipes his hindend with $20 bills, but the total blame for the weak dollar cannot be laid at his feet. Not by any means.

Also, I'm going to have to ask you to give me a link to something to back up your claim that the tax cuts forced us to sell more bonds to China to make up the slack. You might need to read this admittedly conservative source of info on the tax cuts: http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #7
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True enough that food prices as well as almost everything else is more expensive today than it was just a short time ago. Many of us also make considerably more today than what we did just a short time ago. I don't see much changing for me.
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Griswold good gawd, you really believe that don't you?

There is no supply issue right now, all the oil this world consumes is readily available just like it was 5 years ago. We just pay a hell of a lot more and IF there was a shortage tommorrow ? One country or two would step up production maybe a few million barrels and glady sell at $130 a barrel and increase their fortunes.

$135 a barrel is middle eastern influenced, because they hate us. They hate us because we took Iraq. Oil prices took off right after GW invaded Iraq and hasn't let up. You cannot deny that.

American is on its knee, and going to the canvas all because of one thing - gas prices - and GW doesn't even know its happening

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I can't argue with most of that one. I don't think America will go down for the count though. When the going gets tough ...the tough get going. I think America will rally through this difficult time. We will have a new president in 7 months and people will use that as a new beginning to bring change no matter who is elected. The high oil prices will force people to get off their comfort couch and bring about change. We were fat dumb and happy for too long.
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Oil prices took off right after GW invaded Iraq and hasn't let up. You cannot deny that.


I can't? I think I posted a link to a graph just the other day that clearly showed that oil prices began their steep climb BEFORE the Iraq war began. You have yet to offer a shred of evidence to show why the rising oil costs are directly tied to the Iraq war.

Why do you insist on referring to "GW's invasion of Iraq," as if it were all his, and only his, doing. Didn't you support going to war with Iraq?
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