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Old 05-24-2008, 04:53 AM   #21
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Iam so glad we got rid of that God and His "do unto others" crap out of ourpublic life.
I don't know how this relates to the subject at hand....?
You got the quoting thing down better than me so if this doesn't turn out.

Since we have forced God out the lesser gods are taking His place. They are much worse and they aren't at all concerned with the other guy. Most want to be God, no one wants the responsibility that goes along with the job. I'm 50 and have seen the progression downward with every step. People just want to "feed" themselves and getting a God who demands we take as much of an interest in others as ourselves has no place in our "me society". If you have a gun I might feel threatened, I would have to give you a thought, negitive, but a thought. The FOP doesn't want to give you a thought, it might if your armed and equal.
AMEN ! You may think you've not gotten the quotes down pat, but I can tell you've got a real handle on how to 'TAKE THE TEMPERATURE' of the current 'environment'. At 52, we are contemporaries and I believe we both see the devolution of 'management' and 'administration' personnel. I could not agree with you more.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:00 AM   #22
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An unarmed population doesn't make things safer for cops or reduce crime--It just makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes. Gun control is a sham that makes it easier for the law abiding population to become victims because criminals would still have guns. Anybody with even 2 active brain cells realizes that even with no guns allowed at all, criminals would still be able to obtain guns just like drugs and other illegal substances smuggled into this country. The overwhelming # of gunowners are law abiding, pro-law enforcement and anti-crime. Guns don't create crime--They simply enable law abiding people to defend themselves from criminals.
Brother, you're preachin' to the choir. The problem is there are those so ignorant as to believe the mere
presence of a gun invites criminality. The more intelligent variety of these cowardly types fears in you what they believe themselves capable of. The normal, everyday 'garden variety' lefty skunk believes what he sees on TV media news outlets and thinks it's 100% true regarding everything about firearms. In either case, not a pretty picture, considering what I believe the 'average everyday lefty' believes in his heart to be true. The amazing thing about this is that no quotation of fact and no presentation of statistical data to the contrary will educate these types as to either the utility of firearms ownership, or the unalienable nature of the right to self-defense. What pukes.

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Old 05-24-2008, 06:09 AM   #23
 
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The normal, everyday 'garden variety' lefty skunk believes what he sees on TV media news outlets and thinks it's 100% true regarding everything about firearms.Â* In either case, not a pretty picture, considering what I believe the 'average everyday lefty' believes in his heart to be true.Â* The amazing thing about this is that no quotation of fact and no presentation of statistical data to the contrary will educate these types as to either the utility of firearms ownership, or the unalienable nature of the right to self-defense.Â* What pukes.
That's how the whole "assault weapon" thing got started. I have yet to confiscate one of these guns that was legally imported and then altered to full-auto. It is easier and smarter for criminals just to buy a smuggled full-auto. I recently tried to convince a democrat of this (he's running for state rep in AR). He would not believe me. It didn't matter that over my entire career, I have never got a gun from someone who could legally own one, or that every full-auto weapon I have ever taken was in this country illegally. It's like some kind of cult of self-inflicted idiocy. I cannot begin to understand it.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:18 AM   #24
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The normal, everyday 'garden variety' lefty skunk believes what he sees on TV media news outlets and thinks it's 100% true regarding everything about firearms. In either case, not a pretty picture, considering what I believe the 'average everyday lefty' believes in his heart to be true. The amazing thing about this is that no quotation of fact and no presentation of statistical data to the contrary will educate these types as to either the utility of firearms ownership, or the unalienable nature of the right to self-defense. What pukes.
That's how the whole "assault weapon" thing got started. I have yet to confiscate one of these guns that was legally imported and then altered to full-auto. It is easier and smarter for criminals just to buy a smuggled full-auto. I recently tried to convince a democrat of this (he's running for state rep in AR). He would not believe me. It didn't matter that over my entire career, I have never got a gun from someone who could legally own one, or that every full-auto weapon I have ever taken was in this country illegally. It's like some kind of cult of self-inflicted idiocy. I cannot begin to understand it.

You are correct. If memory serves me right, the 'assault weapon' thing got started in Stockton Ca. when a deranged mutant named Patrick Purdy (probably a democrat) loaded up his Chinese copy of an AK-47, walked into the schoolyard of the Cleveland Elementary School and killed 5 people, wounded 30, then killed himself. This sparked all sorts of calls for gun control in Kalifornia. It resulted in George H.W. Bush
signing a ban on the importation of ersatz 'assault weapons' by executive order in 1989 and culminated in the Klinton gun ban of 1994.

The fact that 99% of libs (regardless of political party) stand opposed to article II of the bill of rights
proves revisionist tendencies from 'progressives' and the willingness of socialists in this country to
abridge constitutional rights. It is understood there is no correllation between gun ownership and
crime (except a POSITIVE one which shows a high rate of gun ownership = low crime rate), but they just
'think' it's the right thing to do. These must be opposed at all costs because these types are prone to
demagoguery and are not above taking away the rights of Americans which were paid for in blood.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:01 AM   #25
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BigTiny, you've got the right idea in educating a representative one on one. I spent 15 minutes at an NRA dinner with a guy running for Congress in my district and demolished a lot of the assault gun myths, etc. for him. He told me he would like to call on me for more information and then said he wanted to check with 3 local Sheriffs (mine included). I told him I knew all 3 Sheriffs (2 are pro-2nd amendment and the 3rd is about a C+ or so) and that he could put me in a room with all 3 and I would win the argument hands down. We still talk and I don't think he's even bothered to talk with those Sheriffs yet.
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An unarmed population doesn't make things safer for cops or reduce crime--It just makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes. Gun control is a sham that makes it easier for the law abiding population to become victims because criminals would still have guns. Anybody with even 2 active brain cells realizes that even with no guns allowed at all, criminals would still be able to obtain guns just like drugs and other illegal substances smuggled into this country. The overwhelming # of gunowners are law abiding, pro-law enforcement and anti-crime. Guns don't create crime--They simply enable law abiding people to defend themselves from criminals.
Brother, you're preachin' to the choir. The problem is there are those so ignorant as to believe the mere
presence of a gun invites criminality. The more intelligent variety of these cowardly types fears in you what they believe themselves capable of. The normal, everyday 'garden variety' lefty skunk believes what he sees on TV media news outlets and thinks it's 100% true regarding everything about firearms. In either case, not a pretty picture, considering what I believe the 'average everyday lefty' believes in his heart to be true. The amazing thing about this is that no quotation of fact and no presentation of statistical data to the contrary will educate these types as to either the utility of firearms ownership, or the unalienable nature of the right to self-defense. What pukes.
Forest Gump said it best--"Stupid is as stupid does." A gun does not commit crimes and often saves lives. A gun can only be used to commit a crime when a criminal picks it up and uses it illegally.

If every law abiding citizen was allowed to carry, there was a uniform Grand Jury process in all 50 states (and especially in the east coast communist bastion called Washington DC) that was conducted by knowledgeable gun types to determine if a shooting was justified or not and the courts were not allowed to screw the system up, we would see a huge reduction in crime, a reduction in criminals going to jail (they would either be dead or go straight) and there would be absolutely NO WAY another American airliner would ever be hijacked.

The one single thing most criminals are scared to death of is getting shot by their victims. Criminals are scumbags and oft times aren't too bright but they aren't that stupid. They know enough to stay away from a victim who will shoot them.
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:17 AM   #27
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An unarmed population doesn't make things safer for cops or reduce crime--It just makes it easier for criminals to commit crimes. Gun control is a sham that makes it easier for the law abiding population to become victims because criminals would still have guns. Anybody with even 2 active brain cells realizes that even with no guns allowed at all, criminals would still be able to obtain guns just like drugs and other illegal substances smuggled into this country. The overwhelming # of gunowners are law abiding, pro-law enforcement and anti-crime. Guns don't create crime--They simply enable law abiding people to defend themselves from criminals.
Brother, you're preachin' to the choir. The problem is there are those so ignorant as to believe the mere
presence of a gun invites criminality. The more intelligent variety of these cowardly types fears in you what they believe themselves capable of. The normal, everyday 'garden variety' lefty skunk believes what he sees on TV media news outlets and thinks it's 100% true regarding everything about firearms. In either case, not a pretty picture, considering what I believe the 'average everyday lefty' believes in his heart to be true. The amazing thing about this is that no quotation of fact and no presentation of statistical data to the contrary will educate these types as to either the utility of firearms ownership, or the unalienable nature of the right to self-defense. What pukes.
Forest Gump said it best--"Stupid is as stupid does." A gun does not commit crimes and often saves lives. A gun can only be used to commit a crime when a criminal picks it up and uses it illegally.

If every law abiding citizen was allowed to carry, there was a uniform Grand Jury process in all 50 states (and especially in the east coast communist bastion called Washington DC) that was conducted by knowledgeable gun types to determine if a shooting was justified or not and the courts were not allowed to screw the system up, we would see a huge reduction in crime, a reduction in criminals going to jail (they would either be dead or go straight) and there would be absolutely NO WAY another American airliner would ever be hijacked.

The one single thing most criminals are scared to death of is getting shot by their victims. Criminals are scumbags and oft times aren't too bright but they aren't that stupid. They know enough to stay away from a victim who will shoot them.
I could not agree with you more !

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