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Old 04-29-2008, 07:46 AM   #1
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A university of Michigan Professor took his 7 year old son to a pro baseball game. He bought him what he thought was a regular lemonade that turned out to contain alcohol. A security guard saw the kid with the drink in his hand and busted the guy. The kid was taken to a hospital by ambulance for testing (tests showed nothing) and the family subsequently lost custody of the kid for several days. They would not even let the kid back into his home until the dad moved out of the house and into a hotel. This has involved several police, hospital staff, several childrens services workers and went all the way up to the assistant district attorney. What a mess.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:33 AM   #2
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Why was the employee who served the alcoholic beverage not arrested? The guy who bought it just about had to have handed the drink to the kid in the employee's presence, so why didn't theserver try to stop him?
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:04 AM   #3
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all in the name of Child Protection- "they"can do whatever they want to - look no further than the FLDS fiasco in Texas

not the same thing, however it is similar in that CPS does whatever they want when they want with the power to do it and NOTHING parents do can stop them

poor kid .... poor parents, whole situation is bad and its surprising there isn't more cases like this where fire fights break out to be honest with you
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:33 AM   #4
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Everyone makes mistakes...except for Big D of course

I know if I bought what I thought were candy cigarettes (remember those??), gave them to my child, and lo and behold he starts chewing on a REAL lucky strike in a public place there may be a reason to call somebody? How are they to know it's just a mistake. I would say that based on Lanse's post they may have overreacted but generally, you have to remember that CPS workers are government employees, so if they err, I'd bet it's normally by NOT doing enough (like, imo, the majority of goob employees, as opposed to being zealots for their cause.
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:01 AM   #5
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http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18396709.html

Here's a case where they should have removed a kid and didn't. The caseworkers, the LGAL, and evidently the judge, all f***** up here.

This is why, when one kid in a family is seriously abused, you remove ALL of them.

In the other case, the CPS workers had no choice. Giving your kids booze is considered serious abuse. Apparently he was able to convince everybody that he didn't know that Mike's Hard Lemonade is 5% alcohol. Given that he's a college professor at U of M, that's understandable. Those dudes have very little awareness of the real world.
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:03 PM   #6
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no choice ? They had choice in that link you posted, didn't they ? So, they ignored all of that but a kid at a ball game hammer the dog schit of them huh?

great priorities your beloved CPS has cr422
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:45 AM   #8
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I just caught a quick overview of the story. Based on what little I heard, it may have been the police that really pushed things as opposed to CPS. The Father in question is a Professor of Classical Archaeology and seems to have zero knowledge of alcohol, especially the knowledge that there is even "hard" lemonade.
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I was a History/Archaeology dual major. This guy is lying. Anyone who has ever spent more than a day at a dig site is quite familiar with alcoholic beverages.
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People waiting for my response????????You're gonna give me an inflated ego.

One importantpoint in that link I posted is that they did NOT have a choice. They f***** up. You are supposed to remove ALL of the children from a home if ANY of them have been subject to serious abuse. And the LGAL should have raised holy h*** over that, but apparently went along with it.Returning unabused kids to an abusive home allowsTHEM to become the targets of abuse.

That's why they removed all of the kids from that compound in Texas when they decided that the allegations were substantiated. They screwed up in Texas too when they failed to immediately separate the adult mothers from the children. The mothers left with the kidsapparently tried to derail the investigation.

There is an unfortunate tendency to view mothers of abused kids as co-victims of abusive men. In reality, they are often passive conspirators in the abuse.
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