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Old 04-27-2008, 09:41 AM   #1
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:02 AM   #2
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It is good in the sense it will make people realize how much of the cost of gas is gubment taxes. It won't keep oil companies from making their whopping 8% ROEs though! [:@]
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:21 AM   #3
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I am a republican & think McCain has a bad idea. The temporary lift of the gas tax would only take away from road building funds in the futrue.

The real solution:

1) Suck it up & drive less. Make all of your trips to the store count.
2)Drill oil everywhere wehave it in the U.S.A.
3)Get agressive on finding a real substitute for oil.
4) This my take 20-years to find a product that really does take the place of oil.
5) Get that product to the market place.
6) Stop attacking the oil companies for making a profit.Exxon made a 8% profit last year. That is not a large profit by anyone's standards.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:28 AM   #4
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I don't see it being a real solution to anything. The only real solution is to use less oil or find a substitute.

About all a gas tax holiday will do is encourage people to use more, thereby driving the price up. It will also take money out of transportation funds, meaning highways won't be maintained at the current levels OR we just borrow more money and add to the national debt.
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I don't see it being a real solution to anything. The only real solution is to use less oil or find a substitute.

About all a gas tax holiday will do is encourage people to use more, thereby driving the price up. It will also take money out of transportation funds, meaning highways won't be maintained at the current levels OR we just borrow more money and add to the national debt.

I second that, we really shouldn't be taking money away from the government for one of the major things that they should actually be spending it on.......Infastructure
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:11 PM   #6
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Screw the gas tax. I say suspend it.

Which is the bigger problem:Americans' consumption of petroleum, or the federal government's monstrous bloat? The fact that these dip****s making three figures in Washington have the nerve to urge limited consumption, but can't bear to spend our tax money responsibly, makes want to say, "F--- 'em and feed 'em fish heads..."

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Screw the gas tax. I say suspend it.

Which is the bigger problem:Americans' consumption of petroleum, or the federal government's monstrous bloat? The fact that these dip****s making three figures in Washington have the nerve to urge limited consumption, but can't bear to spend our tax money responsibly, makes want to say, "F--- 'em and feed 'em fish heads..."

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McCain is starting to promise all kinds of stuff. His is becoming the candidate who promises everything to all people-just line Hillary and Obama.Just the other dayMcCain visited New Orleans and criticized the Bush bunch for not doing enough for the city. McCain now wants stronger levees and more help from the feds. This after he voted against most help for New Orleans.
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Screw the gas tax. I say suspend it.

Which is the bigger problem:*Americans' consumption of petroleum, or the federal government's monstrous bloat? The fact that these dip****s making three figures in Washington have the nerve to urge limited consumption, but can't bear to spend our tax money responsibly, makes want to say, "F--- 'em and feed 'em fish heads..."

Give me my money, you old ****s...
Darn straight!

I'm not sure the "It'll take funds away from our transportation infrastructure" argument is a good one. We can cut costs elsewhere to make up what a gasoline tax reduction/suspension would take away from our transportation budget. And don't anybody for a minute think that there aren't plenty of places where the pork could be cut. If it can't be cut from our domestic budget, how about a nice big reduction in the amount of foreign aid we send out? These are difficult times that call for difficult decisions, and too many of the governments we're aiding do too much criticizing of American foreign policy anyway. For that matter, I think it would be interesting to see some figures on how much foreign aid (maintaining a military presence, if nothing else) is costing us that goes directly to nations that are OPECKERS that are part of our current problem anyway.

It's easy to say that the real solutions are to use less (not likely to make a big dent) or find an alternative fuel (which would take decades). Gas prices alone are going to drive us straight into the worst economic times we've seen since the early '80s within the next 4 to 6 quarters, IMO.

Will a temporary suspension of the gasoline tax provide a long-term solution? Of course not. OPEC and our good ol' oil companies are intent on milking us dry to line their own pockets, and gasoline prices per gallon sans the tax would be back to the current levels in short order.

Increasing domestic drilling would be a small part of the solution. The ANWR would be a good place to start. Off-shore drilling would be another. Perhaps another part of the solution would be to adopt the attitude of Congressman Lincoln Davis, who recently said "If I were president, I"d go to Saudi Arabia and say, "Listen, we saved you from a dictator named Saddam Hussein. We need some oil.' And I"d go to Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates and say, "You"ve got big oil reserves and we saved you from conquest. We need some help." I"d go to other countries that have oil reserves who we"ve helped and ask them to start producing and say, "This isn"t a request. It"s a demand. Or otherwise you can start taking care of your own problems.""

But perhaps the best solution at this point, until we can develop an alternative, is for the government to get into the oil business. The conservative in me cringes at that idea. But the realist in me says that even the federal government wouldn't be as greedy as Exxon, et al.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:29 PM   #10
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Exxon, and their monstrous 8% returns on equity! Their company execs should be arrested and thrown in jail! The problem is not granting them access to our oil reserves to increase supply, but their audacity to turn a profit for their shareholders.
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