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Old 04-24-2008, 08:45 PM   #1
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http://www.storyofstuff.com/

Interesting video to watch if you have a few minutes. Addresses topics such as consumerism and things along that line
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:03 PM   #2
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Indeed the system needs to change.
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I think Annie's been smokin crack and BFRs. I'm going shoppin!!!!!!!
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:37 AM   #4
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Typical tree-hugging commie crap. I agree with neither tone nor content.
And I don't feel bad about my conspicuous consumption, either.
And while I'm at it, how come the 3rd world gets to charge us for OUR stuff
that's growing down there !!??? What a bunch !

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Old 04-25-2008, 08:16 AM   #5
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Typical tree-hugging commie crap. I agree with neither tone nor content.
Ok, so she presented numerous FACTS, you choose to just not believe them at all?
do you think 2+2=6 as well?

granted there is an anti-connsumerism attitude (why shouldn't there be), but choosing do disregard something like this as "crap" is simply unacceptable
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but choosing do disregard something like this as "crap" is simply unacceptable
Exactly, why would you NOT contribute to making the world a better and healthier place to live in?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:48 PM   #7
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I'm feeling mighty low now. I think I am going to go out and shoot some lead into recycled paper Istuck against a tree stump by a stream. See I am saving the world a little at a time, recycled paper targets!
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http://www.storyofstuff.com/

Interesting video to watch if you have a few minutes. Addresses topics such as consumerism and things along that line
Thank you very much for that vid. While a little dramatized (I hate it when they do that, they DO NOT need to.), its a great reminder.
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Very bogus. I had to quit three minutes into it. In that short amount of time numorous errors were made starting with it's a linear system. The last thing it is is linear. Linear suggest no improvements get made over time. To the the arguement of trees, there are more trees now then when the pilgrams came to America. Natural resources, there are several examples of the fear of natural resources running out only to spur new exploration and greater finds to be found. Since I didn't waste my time with the rest I can't comment on it but I bet in the end she said we were running out of space for dumps. That is a false statement based on the fact below:

"A. Clark Wiseman, an economist at Gonzaga University in Spokane, Wash., has calculated that if Americans keep generating garbage at current rates for 1,000 years, and if all their garbage is put in a landfill 100 yards deep, by the year 3000 this national garbage heap will fill a square piece of land 35 miles on each side. This doesn't seem a huge imposition in a country the size of America. The garbage would occupy only 5 percent of the area needed for the national array of solar panels proposed by environmentalists. The millennial landfill would fit on one-tenth of 1 percent of the range land now available for grazing in the continental United States. And if it still pains you to think of depriving posterity of that 35-mile square, remember that the loss will be only temporary. Eventually, like previous landfills, the mounds of trash will be covered with grass and become a minuscule addition to the nation's 150,000 square miles of parkland."

Next I bet she might even said something about over population. We're running out of room. Hardly, if you would take the worlds population and assume 4 peopleto a family, we could fit the entire population injust the area 2X the state of texas. Each in a single family home on a 1/4 acre lot.
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Old 04-26-2008, 02:37 PM   #10
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In that short amount of time numorous errors were made starting with it's a linear system. The last thing it is is linear. Linear suggest no improvements get made over time.
agreed, its probably a not linear. probably closer to exponential these days because the answer to consumerist materialism is more consumerist materialism. What do people view as the answer to NO2, CO, SO2 emissions out of cars? Simply buy/make betterhybrids cars or hope to buy/make bettersolar powered cars. So, I agree with you, in that case it probably is worse than what she said.

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To the the arguement of trees, there are more trees now then when the pilgrams came to America.
Is that so? I know that there are more trees than when people begin realizing that they would eventually run out, however, to say that there are more trees than when the pilgrims first came to america is probably erroneous. Remember, when they first came, the entire country (that could support them) was covered with trees.

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"A. Clark Wiseman, an economist at Gonzaga University in Spokane, Wash., has calculated that if Americans keep generating garbage at current rates for 1,000 years, and if all their garbage is put in a landfill 100 yards deep, by the year 3000 this national garbage heap will fill a square piece of land 35 miles on each side. This doesn't seem a huge imposition in a country the size of America. The garbage would occupy only 5 percent of the area needed for the national array of solar panels proposed by environmentalists. The millennial landfill would fit on one-tenth of 1 percent of the range land now available for grazing in the continental United States. And if it still pains you to think of depriving posterity of that 35-mile square, remember that the loss will be only temporary. Eventually, like previous landfills, the mounds of trash will be covered with grass and become a minuscule addition to the nation's 150,000 square miles of parkland."
Good find. Touché, however I am sure there are many conflicting sources on such a topic.

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Hardly, if you would take the worlds population and assume 4 peopleto a family, we could fit the entire population injust the area 2X the state of texas. Each in a single family home on a 1/4 acre lot.
Right now maybe, but exponential growth over, say, 50 years, then what? Well, I guess we can just fill up the world over the next 100 years, but then we can jjst errase HNI because no hunting, fishing or even "living" will be possible.


It's beyond me how people can disregard such a video as "crap" or "bogus." Whether one thinks its good or bad, something can still be learned from it. Were far beyond the point of, "I recycle I help the planet." Its funny that were such consumerisms that we're unable to even watch an anti-consumerist video without labeling it as stupid/flase without even attempting to learn something

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