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Old 04-19-2008, 06:48 AM   #1
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Heard this comment on Neal Boortz yesterday. I thought it was so good it needed to be shared.

Then: "The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is... legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay ... If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system." - Frederic Bastiat
Now: "The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more." - Michelle Obama

AND NOW ON TO BARACK
An absolutely incredible exchange during the debate on Wednesday night. This is the type of question that so infuriates left wingers. First Obama was reminded that when capital gains taxes are cut revenues to the government go up. Then he was reminded that when capital gains taxes are increased, tax revenues go down. Then he was asked in light of these statistics why he was promoting an increase in capital gains taxes. His answer? He said that he capital gains taxes should go up out of fairness.
There you have it folks. Barack Obama believes that taxes serve purposes other than raising revenue for the legitimate operations of government. He also thinks that taxes should be used to make things more "fair." In other words .. to take from the people who are making too much money and give to the people who are making too little. Or, as some of Barack's communist heroes might say, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Are you ready for a United States where politicians determine how much of the money you earn it would be fair for you to keep, and how much should just be taken and given to someone else?
If you are ... then Obama is your man!
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Barack is failing miserably.
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Barack is failing miserably.
...and he's way out of his league, but the press that supports him hasn't told him that yet
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Barack is failing miserably.
failing miserably and still ahead of both clinton and likely will beat mccain, yikes, what does that say about them?

oh, I know, thems stoopid liberelss jus beliefs anythings theys is been telled and follers them people that talks good!
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:38 AM   #5
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Barack is failing miserably.
failing miserably and still ahead of both clinton and likely will beat mccain, yikes, what does that say about them?

oh, I know, thems stoopid liberelss jus beliefs anythings theys is been telled and follers them people that talks good!
Wahoo, it's not that surprising Barack is close to McCain, he's not beating him. The majority of the people who are selected in these polls don't vote now and aren't focused until October. Obama won't be there in November. His lack of knowledge is painfully showing through.
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Good post. You phrased the questioning exactly as it happened. If democrats wanted to maximize revenues, they'd understand the road to doing so is relatively low tax rates. Instead, they want to punish success because they want power over the successful.
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Heard this comment on Neal Boortz yesterday.Â* I thought it was so good it needed to be shared.Â*
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Then: "The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is... legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay ... If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system." - Frederic Bastiat
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:09 PM   #8
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failing miserably and still ahead of both clinton and likely will beat mccain, yikes, what does that say about them?

oh, I know, thems stoopid liberelss jus beliefs anythings theys is been telled and follers them people that talks good!
Wahoo, sorry for the slow response to your full answer. When confronted with the facts on capital gains Barack just stated his idea for taxes is fairness not prosperity, national debt or your social programs. It's about fairness. You breezed right by that one but can you please explain why that is the right position to hold?
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When confronted with the facts on capital gains Barack just stated his idea for taxes is fairness not prosperity, national debt or your social programs. It's about fairness
we as americans all have certain inalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If prosperity elimantes these rights for some, can the prosperity be said to be truly American?
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When confronted with the facts on capital gains Barack just stated his idea for taxes is fairness not prosperity, national debt or your social programs. It's about fairness
we as americans all have certain inalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If prosperity elimantes these rights for some, can the prosperity be said to be truly American?
Please explain how one mans properity has anything to do with another? Except for the fact that everyone has the chance to succeed and if another paves the way, you know you can too.
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