We either need to pull out or fight like we are in a real war. If we want to win we have to fight like ww2, all out, and make war the last thing they ever want again. We blew the hell out of ***an and Germany, utter devastation to the point there was no more will to fight, any oposition or rebelion, we leveled the whole neighborhood, rounded up survivors and shot them. Not pretty or PC, but it worked. Allot of innocent get killed, but how many get killed by dragging out the battle, just like the decision to drop the bomb on ***an, how many more ***anese and allies would have died if we would have had to invade. This hearts and mind stuff doesn't seem to ever work, it just makes us look weak to our enemies, turns our troops into targets, and has us giving them full stomachs upon which to fight us.