Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
Whatever your politics, however you lean, however you feel about the current administration, this report should open some eyes.
Military losses, 1980 through 2006 (ttp://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)
As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics:
The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:
1980 ......... 2,392 (Carter Year)
1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
1991 ....... 1,787 (George H W Year)
1992 ........ 1,293 (George H W Year)
1993 ........ 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 ........ 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 ........ 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 ........ 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 ............817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .........2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 ........ 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 .........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 ........... 890 (George W Year)
2002 .........1,007 (George W Yea r)
2003 ........ 1,410 (George W Year)
2004 .........1,887 (George W Year)
2005 ............919 (George W Year)
2006.............920 (George W Year)
2007.............899 (George W Year)
Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths
If you are surpris ed when you look at these figures, so was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle East are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!
It surprised me too, so I went on line to find out what military actions we were in during Clinton 's presidency. Here is a web site I found that lists out those conflicts. (not war)
And, I was even more shocked when I re ad that in 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there were 2,392 US military fatalities! I think that these figures indicate that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the information on which they report. Of course we all know that they present only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do so many of them march in lock-step to
twist the truth? Where do so many of them get their marching-orders for their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda, and I believe it is clear it comes from the most powerful Democratic family of the decade.
Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census, of Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens, by Race:
European descent (white)..............69.12%
Hispanic ...................................... 12.5%
Black ............................................12.3%
Asian ............................................ 3.7%
Native American ........................... 1.0%
Other ........................................... 2.6%
Now... here are the fatalities by Race; over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom:
European descent (white) .............74.31%
Hispanic ...................................... 10.74%
Black ... ....................................... 9.67%
Asian ........................................ 1.81%
Native American .............. ........... 1.09%
Other ......................................... 0.33%
I was surprised again. .until it became clear to me that the point here is that our mainstream media continues to spin these figures (for political gain). Nothing more.
It's all about politics and some politicians, are now famous for turning American against American for a vote. (Consider Slick Willy and his comments just recently made about South Carolina , Jesse Jackson, and the blacks voting for the black candidates); or Hillary's stump speech after her Super Tuesday 'victory' stating that the current administration does not 'listen' to anyone and continues the war costing precious American lives. Yes, I might even agree with her, but she should be made to acknowledge her own
husband's administration, without having an actual war, sent more soldiers to death during his regime-while also forcing the military to release Osama when we actually had him detained.
I hope that during the time between now and November, that intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin and the spinners from the leaders; those who seek even more power from those that seek justice, the dividers from the uniters.
Over the next months let's be good listeners (yes, Hillary we are listening) and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who wants to unite our nation. Who wants to control how our money is spent and who wants our money spent the way we would spend it. Who seeks power and who seeks justice? Who spins the facts and who is genuine?
(These statistics a re published by Congressional Research Service, and they may be confirmed by anyone at: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/ RL32492.pdf)
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RE: Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
Surely this can't be true. Everyone knows that Bush is a chickenhawk warmonger who is sending our young minority men to die fighting for the rich white oilmen... [/sarcasm]
Oh... yeah, and according to Alicia Keys, he invented Gangsta Rap so that black men will kill each other...
Edit: For some reason, your link didn't work. Here it is again:
RE: Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
If these are indeed facts, this should be the ultimate proof of how much the media is slanted liberal, and how out of touch with reality the democratic leaders are. It is one thing to criticize something you don't agree with, but to point out something that was worse with your own guy in office, it is outright despicable.
RE: Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
I haven't researched the numbers from Carter through Bush II, but, the percentages by ethnicity of folks killed in Iraq and Afghanistan come from a Congressional Research Services report to Congress, compiled from DOD statistics, updated through March 18, 2008...
Original PostCorrect number
1980 ......... 2,392 (Carter Year)................2392
1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year) ............2380
1982 .................................................. ..2319
1983 .................................................. ..2465
1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year).............1999
1985 .................................................. ..2252
1986 .................................................. ..1984
1987 .................................................. ..1983
1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year) ............1819
1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year).......1636
1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year) ......1507
1991 ....... 1,787 (George H W Year)..........1787
1992 ........ 1,293 (George H W Year) ........1293
1993 ........ 1,213 ( Clinton Year)...............1213
1994 ........ 1,075 ( Clinton Year) ..............1075
1995 ........ 2,465 ( Clinton Year) ..............1040
1996 ........ 2,318 ( Clinton Year) ...............974
1997 ............817 ( Clinton Year) ..............817
1998 .........2,252 ( Clinton Year) ..............827
1999 ........ 1,984 ( Clinton Year) ..............796
2000 .........1,983 ( Clinton Year) .............758
2001 ........... 890 (George W Year)............891
2002 .........1,007 (George W Year) ...........999
2003 ........ 1,410 (George W Year) ..........1228
2004 .........1,887 (George W Year)...........1874
2005 ............919 (George W Year) ..........1942
2006.............920 (George W Year)...........1858
2007.............899 (George W Year) ?
So, it looks like the original post deleted a couple of Reagan years, and transposed those numbers into some of the Clinton years... i.e. 1985-1987 Reagan Numbers were converted to 1998-2000 Clinton Numbers....
RE: Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
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Does this info take in account all the people the Clintons had wacked? Oh, sorry, I mean committed suicide.
I kinda doubt it. I'm pretty sure they never whacked any military personnel. They wouldn't want to try to whack someone who might be able to defend himself when someone tried to stab him in the back...
RE: Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter
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ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Does this info take in account all the people the Clintons had wacked? Oh, sorry, I mean committed suicide.
I kinda doubt it. I'm pretty sure they never whacked any military personnel. They wouldn't want to try to whack someone who might be able to defend himself when someone tried to stab him in the back...
I also believe you left out another type of wacking that was apparently going on quite frequently while Bill was in the Oval Office or was that the closet?
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Interesting fact sheet about Iraq and other conflicts.
