logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Non Hunting > Politics

Politics Nothing goes with politics quite like crying and complaining, and we're a perfect example of that.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-12-2008, 11:11 AM   #1
Nontypical Buck
 
Canuck_Buck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 4,913
Default U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2005/0627africa_rice.aspx

The Bush Administration has significantly increased aid to Africa, but that increase falls far short of what the President has claimed. U.S. aid to Africa from FY 2000 (the last full budget year of the Clinton Administration) to FY2004 (the last completed fiscal year of the Bush Administration) has not "tripled" or even doubled. Rather, in real dollars, it has increased 56% (or 67% in nominal dollar terms). The majority of that increase consists of emergency food aid, rather than assistance for sustainable development of the sort Africa needs to achieve lasting poverty reduction.

.....seems like just a bandaid...
.....or like the articles contines below....

What the U.S. Should Do and Why

The Gleneagles Summit poses an historic opportunity for the United States to lead the international community in providing increased development and other assistance to Africa. The Bush Administration should join the UK, France, Italy and Germany and twelve other developed nations and commit to devote up to 0.7% of U.S. gross national income to overseas development assistance by 2015.

This commitment would place the U.S. in the forefront of international efforts to alleviate global poverty.


Global poverty undermines U.S. national security by facilitating the emergence and spread of transnational security threats, including disease, environmental degradation, crime, narcotics flows, proliferation and terrorism. First, poverty substantially increases the risk of conflict, which in turn creates especially fertile breeding grounds for such threats. Second, poverty erodes weak states' capacity to prevent or contain transnational threats.

AGREE or DISAGREE??
__________________
Happiness is a warm gun.
Canuck_Buck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 12:02 PM   #2
Giant Nontypical
 
DougMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gambrills Md US
Posts: 6,078
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

Disagree. How about Africa reform their economy to take advantage of their massive natural resources and become productive? Giving them food and aid enables them to live off our credit card.
DougMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 12:13 PM   #3
Nontypical Buck
 
Briman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Body in SE WI, mind in U.P.
Posts: 4,783
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

No amount of money is worth it.

Every country thrived under european colonial rule, now that those ties are gone, they reverted back to tribal/ethnic war. The only sub-saharan country that's kept some sort of level of legitimacy is South Africa, but its fading fast.

Until legitimate governments can be set up and stability reached, there's no reason to piss away money on that continent.
__________________
Obamanfreude - 1. taking pleasure from the misfortunes of an Obama supporter as he or she is adversely affected by the policies of their Dear Leader.
Briman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 01:43 PM   #4
Boone & Crockett
 
Aught Six's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 13,219
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

We're going to get more and more oil from West Africa over the next ten years. Nigeria is full of light sweet crude, and we need it badly. Investment in the continent is a way of created more stability than there now (virtually none). More American business interests, more American military forces offshore.

If we don't buy Africa, China will. And if we can get more oil for less money and effort, I would say it's a worthy investment...
__________________
Matthew 18:3-6
Aught Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 02:17 PM   #5
Nontypical Buck
 
Beau Ouiville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Side
Posts: 1,696
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

Quote:
ORIGINAL: Aught Six

We're going to get more and more oil from West Africa over the next ten years. Nigeria is full of light sweet crude, and we need it badly. Investment in the continent is a way of created more stability than there now (virtually none). More American business interests, more American military forces offshore.

If we don't buy Africa, China will. And if we can get more oil for less money and effort, I would say it's a worthy investment...
While that sounds a little opportunistic, it is highly pragmatic.
__________________
South Side Beau
Beau Ouiville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:59 PM   #6
Giant Nontypical
 
DougMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gambrills Md US
Posts: 6,078
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

I think most Americans would be all for getting something in return for our aid. Giving it away is the different story.
DougMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #7
Nontypical Buck
 
Centauri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chetek, WI
Posts: 2,070
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

This is just another example on how Bush doesn't care about the American homeland. All the time, you'll here about African nations, and Iraq, but when does he care about OUR country? Rarely. And its nice to know that he gave our mosquito nets to prevent malaria in Africa, at the expense of 2 BILLION dollars of our own money. Sure, its nice and all that he's helping a country in need, but there are problems here ya know!!
__________________
Get addicted to Wisconsin wolves, smoke a pack a day

W.W.H.D.
Centauri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 06:38 PM   #8
Boone & Crockett
 
Aught Six's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 13,219
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

If we don't get more oil and clamp down on new Islamic terrorist groups sprouting up in Africa, we'll all be poor.
__________________
Matthew 18:3-6
Aught Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 07:51 PM   #9
 
BigTiny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3,145
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

If sending aid had ever solved anything, I'd say it was worth a try, but every country we aid in this manner just gets worse faster. They should sue us.
BigTiny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 11:41 PM   #10
Nontypical Buck
 
Beau Ouiville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Side
Posts: 1,696
Default RE: U.S. Foreign Assistance to Africa: Claims vs. Reality

Well, foreign aid to the Weimar Republic may have avoided WWII.
__________________
South Side Beau
Beau Ouiville is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scent Lok Claims ..... WildlifePhoto Whitetail Deer Hunting 25 06-25-2008 04:35 AM
Looking for some assistance. Roseaukaine Technical 5 05-18-2006 07:13 AM
ATV claims another deer cardeer Whitetail Deer Hunting 20 11-05-2004 09:56 AM
Need some assistance, please chef#1 Technical 1 11-23-2002 05:34 PM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:48 AM.