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today/tonight will decide the Dem candidate - its a big day
its big becuase the next President of the US will be coming out of this day. yes, Dem's WILL WIN in 2008, Obama has been more of a challenge than I thought to Hillary
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its big becuase the next President of the US will be coming out of this day. yes, Dem's WILL WIN in 2008, Obama has been more of a challenge than I thought to Hillary
I still think Hillary make it tonight though
Hardly, first they have two very weak canidates and 2nd, there aren't enough deligates left for either to claim victory. One of two things will happen. Revote in Mi and Fl and/or the super del's decide who will run on the Dem ticket.
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Revote in Mi and Fl and/or the super del's decide who will run on the Dem ticket.
Super dels will determine the outcome. I smell a rat. Money talks and she will win this thing Duane. I wouldn't be so worried about it if the GOP had someone other than McCain on the ticket. His campaign was almost broke and he was all but written off 4 months ago. Now he is the best the republicans can offer. Talk about a perfect storm for the Dems with their recent wins to control the house and senate. It will come down to a simple choice for many of us. Vote for the lesser of two evils. Strong partisan voters will chose their respective sides and it will come down to who the independant general public thinks can lead us for the next 4 years.
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RE: today/tonight will decide the Dem candidate - its a big day
The rules say who gets the super delegates wins - right ?
Hillary IS in the drivers seat. She won CA/NY/OH/TX .... if she takes those during the election and add Florida to the mix, she's very close to having the Presidency right there. The Dem's know that you can't win the White House without those core states, and those states proved they like Hillary more.
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The rules say who gets the super delegates wins - right ?
Hillary IS in the drivers seat. She won CA/NY/OH/TX .... if she takes those during the election and add Florida to the mix, she's very close to having the Presidency right there. The Dem's know that you can't win the White House without those core states, and those states proved they like Hillary more.
You got a point however, they need some serious negotiations to keep the party together. I don't believe Hillary will over take Obama on votes or Del's. Already your hearing rumblings that the super Ds should vote with the will of the people. If that's the case, why have them in the first place. They may have to figure away to combine the ticket, however if Obama is ahead, does he take a back seat to Hillary?
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The rules say who gets the super delegates wins - right ?
That is the way this may end. The super delegates can vote any way they want to. They are not held to who has the lead, or a constituency. They are an entity to themselves.They arechosen solely on their status as current or former elected officeholders and party officials. Hillary can be behind Obama, and if she is close enough the Super Delegates can give Obama the shaft.
In other words,theSuper Delegates aresmarter the the common democrat delegate.....supposedly.
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The rules say who gets the super delegates wins - right ?
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That is the way this may end. The super delegates can vote any way they want to. They are not held to who has the lead, or a constituency. They are an entity to themselves.They arechosen solely on their status as current or former elected officeholders and party officials. Hillary can be behind Obama, and if she is close enough the Super Delegates can give Obama the shaft.
In other words,theSuper Delegates aresmarter the the common democrat delegate.....supposedly.
C. Davis
You are correct on this as they can flip at anytime.. I am thinking the next big win maybe Penn. and if this happens she will more than likely carry alot of the super delegates then. But who the heck knows at least right now anyways. She could also be asked to step aside and let Obama run to, there is just to many questions still..