Well, I'd say it was not justified because the UK can rely on us taking care of people who they give us information on in our country. It's the same reason we don't have to launch attacks in western european countries....we give our intel to them and they take care of the business in their country. In third world countries not only can we not rely on their internal police/military to take care of the business, it's to the point of hampering our efforts to fight people who have declared war on our country.
but even if we don't want to look at it reasonably, let them launch a missle into our country and we'll blow the crap out of them and there's not much they could do about it. The basic rule of humanity still applies....he who holds the superior physical force (and everything involved with it, not just sheer numbers, but intel, brains, strategy, etc.) has the ultimate power in the world.
Yeah, if there was gonna be outside intervention it should have come 120 years ago when we were violating treaties and waging genocide on Native Americans.
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Yeah, if there was gonna be outside intervention it should have come 120 years ago when we were violating treaties and waging genocide on Native Americans.
Yeah, if there was gonna be outside intervention it should have come 120 years ago when we were violating treaties and waging genocide on Native Americans.
yea, but there wasn't, the Native Americans lost to the emperial U.S. and they now need to get over it......or they can attempt to fight and take their lands back (I don't really see it working too well though)
Yeah, if there was gonna be outside intervention it should have come 120 years ago when we were violating treaties and waging genocide on Native Americans.
yea, but there wasn't, the Native Americans lost to the emperial U.S. and they now need to get over it......or they can attempt to fight and take their lands back (I don't really see it working too well though)
I don't see where this even comes into the argument, to be perfectly frank.
The Indians gave as good as they got...and then some. They just lost to superior manufacturing, germ warfare, superior numbers and superior supply infrastructure. It's the libs mantra to wail about the Native Americans (which are facetiously considered Noble Savages...cripes what a crock). I don't even think Native Americans wail on their own behalf as much as the libs do it FOR them. Did they get a raw deal ? Of course. Do I feel sorry about it ? Hmmm...jury's out on that one...we were in a fight we needed to win, and butchery was perpetrated by both sides. We won, that's all. Anybody feel sorry about the ***s we burned on Bataan and Corregidor, or the Vietnamese we blew to bits on our B52 raids ? How about beating our breasts over the incinerated people of Dresden ? No, not me either. But let's keep one thing in perspective...we'd not be the superpower we are now, if we did not succeed in manifest destiny and the subjugation of indigenous populations to make this one secure nation. Like I said, I just don't figure how the American Holocaust comes into this argument....curve ball, maybe ?
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RE: UK missle strike againt US
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we take care of the terrorist here
do we ? OKC, JFK, MLK, abortion terorists, 9-11, ricin in Las Vegas, a bunch I'm not even remembering ...... true we don't have civil war, we don't have street bombers etc ..... but is that all the justification we need as the collective United States to bomb other countries ?
The U.S. entered into what were supposed to be legally binding treaties with sovereign nations and then broke most of them while permitting soldiers and citizens alike to slaughter women and children. I know the old, "but the indians were already fighting indians before the whites came," story much better than most of you. But it is a question of scale as well as what an official nation was doing in 1860 as opposed to what a bunch of largely unorganized Indian tribes were doing in 1491. Sorry, but that is the simple truth. My only point was that if one wanted to even try and justify outside intervention in the U.S. that would have been the time when you could make the best case for it. Its really a moot point, but one that i felt was relevant to the logic being used in this thread.
And if you think that I am a leftist, then I've got some prime real estate in Greenland that i can give you a great deal on[8D]
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