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Old 02-28-2008, 08:26 PM   #1
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Record-high ratio of Americans in prison

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If prison was punishment, we wouldn't have this problem.

Overcrowding has the drug users I've been prosecuting getting out on parole on average when they have served 1/10th their sentence.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:52 PM   #3
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That's kind of my point. The laws get tougher, and the situation gets worse. It's so bad we're literally out of jail cells. Meanwhile, the problems of street crime, drug addiction, and poverty have not improved much in most places. I don't claim to have the answers, but someone is going to have to rethink what we're doing with the criminal justice system in this country.
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If prison was punishment, we wouldn't have this problem.
I don't know about that, prison seems pretty f-ed up from what I have seen and heard. Not a place you want to be.
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If U.S. prisons and jails deported illegal Mexican prisoners, they would reduce the overcrowding quite a bit. Here's a link for some information.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9902E1D61F3FF933A15757C0A9619582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:46 AM   #6
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funny how so many of us bemoan the existence of nanny government, yet never even consider nor complain about one of its hugest and most expensive manifestations: the criminalization of soft drugs. for a variety of reasons, the decriminalization of marijuana use is a "third rail" in this country that serious candidates can't even discuss.

given the costs involved in arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating these folks, i don't understand why we don't give serious consideration to alternate approaches to dealing with drug use. certainly the costs associated with drugaddiction are both high, and tragic...just like alcohol. we deal with the latter without, by and large, resort to the criminal justice system. why not the former?
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If prison was punishment, we wouldn't have this problem.

Overcrowding has the drug users I've been prosecuting getting out on parole on average when they have served 1/10th their sentence.
That along with the fact more and more laws being added to erode everyones rights away also adds to this..
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Harsh Sentencing Policies Work

No one in Texas receiving a sentence of death re-offend. It's success rate is 100%.

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I don't know about that, prison seems pretty f-ed up from what I have seen and heard. Not a place you want to be.
It's not a place you or I would want to be, but then again we aren't felons, either. Or at least I'm not.[8D]

Prison gangs control prisons. And a lot of the thugs in there and being put in there are already part of a gang. When they get in , they join up with members of their gang, and it's life as usual for them.
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If U.S. prisons and jails deported illegal Mexican prisoners, they would reduce the overcrowding quite a bit.Â* Here's a link for some information.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9902E1D61F3FF933A15757C0A9619582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
I've already prosecuted several illegals. Deporting someone doesn't do a bit of good. They all ask to be deported, because if that's what they get, they will beat the bus back. We'd have to have a secure border first for that to work.
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