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I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama. They all hang together; half of them don't work, and the ones that do, aren't that bright.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do
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A golf course is a willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range.
I already read this stuff last year. I'm glad to see more reporting about this feel good, voting getting crap. We're an Oil based economy and will be that way for the rest of your life, your kids life and grand kids life.
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I see biodiesel being more of a realistic solution than ethanol. That said, there is nothing necessarily wrong with ethanol itself. A little lowered fuel economy isn't a big deal as long as ethonol is produced efficiently, with a return that more than offsets the loss in fuel economy. However, the current US focus on ethanol (thanks to the corn lobby) does not and will not result in a reduction in US dependence on fossil fuels. Corn is the primary focus, and corn is just not the proper source for ethanol. It does not result in a net reduction in fossil fuels, and it consumes vast quantities of water, which may soon become more valuable than the fossil fuel it is being used to replace.
If lobbists were not in control of Washington, and the US would focus ethanol efforts on native grasses, like switchgrass, ethanol production could greatly reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Switchgrass is a long-lived perennial that is easily established, requires little maintenance, and can be grown throughout much of the US without irrigation, even in areas far too dry to support corn.
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It's one thing that ethanol costs as much or more to make than gasoline when all the costs are added up. It's yet another problem when it displaces other crops and corn for other means, because everything from milk to pizzas to wheat bread increases in price.
It's one thing that ethanol costs as much or more to make than gasoline when all the costs are added up. It's yet another problem when it displaces other crops and corn for other means, because everything from milk to pizzas to wheat bread increases in price.
It's not as efficient and they just plan isn't enough out there for us to offset crap of any source proposed today. Man made global warming has jumped the shark. In time people will give up on that notion. If we are really serious about foreign oil,we just need to quit this nonsense and allow us to drill for our own known and unknown oil reserves. We will do it some day sooner or later. America just isn't that upset yet with the cost of gasoline. We will reach the tipping point sometime.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Yeah, the sooner the better. We should be drilling in ANWR, off the coast of Florida, and other forbidden places at the same time we try to develop feasible alternatives.
I heard (not sure if its true) that Ethanol takes one gallon of gas(oil) to produce one gallon of Ethanol. Does anyone know if thats true?
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I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama. They all hang together; half of them don't work, and the ones that do, aren't that bright.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do
not understand, no explanation is possible.
A golf course is a willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range.
I see biodiesel being more of a realistic solution than ethanol. That said, there is nothing necessarily wrong with ethanol itself. A little lowered fuel economy isn't a big deal as long as ethonol is produced efficiently, with a return that more than offsets the loss in fuel economy. However, the current US focus on ethanol (thanks to the corn lobby) does not and will not result in a reduction in US dependence on fossil fuels. Corn is the primary focus, and corn is just not the proper source for ethanol. It does not result in a net reduction in fossil fuels, and it consumes vast quantities of water, which may soon become more valuable than the fossil fuel it is being used to replace.
If lobbists were not in control of Washington, and the US would focus ethanol efforts on native grasses, like switchgrass, ethanol production could greatly reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Switchgrass is a long-lived perennial that is easily established, requires little maintenance, and can be grown throughout much of the US without irrigation, even in areas far too dry to support corn.
Industrial hemp will outproduce both corn and switchgrass acre for acre in fuel production, can be grown anywhere except Antarctica, and produces a wealth of side products just like petroleum. With the sole exception of gasoline, hempseed oil can produce any product that petroleum currently yields, and doesn't compete with food crops. I wonder how long it will be before this incredible resource is given it's due credit and becomes a viable part of our economy?
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"With the sole exception of gasoline, hempseed oil can produce any product that petroleum currently yields, and doesn't compete with food crops. I wonder how long it will be before this incredible resource is given it's due credit and becomes a viable part of our economy?"
You are right. Hemp was a big part of our economy fordecades. Unfortunately, the idiots who run this country from inside the beltwaythink that industrial hempis identical to the smoking kind of hemp. This, despite the fact that a dope sniffing dog will not alert on industrial hemp.
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RE: Poor Ethanol
Ethanol sucks. It has very low energy return compared to other hydrocarbons. Also, its hard to get enough fuel for our country. Unless we can start creating it from cellulose, we wont be able to grow enough corn to make it . If we turned all the corn in the U.S. into ethanol, it would only meet 30% of our needs. OR that was what I read recently.
Hemp, even the rope type not the smoking type, is damned due to its drug relationship. The government is afraid to let people grow it because some might be growing the wacky kind.
Biodiesel
I might be wrong, but have read that it is a waste of money. Its like ethanol, it cost more energy to produce than what it yields. Like I said, i might be wrong, but that was what came out a few months ago about Biodiesel.
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Poor Ethanol
