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Old 02-17-2008, 11:09 AM   #1
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You think with every thing going on with their fight to find a Candidate you might see a implsotion in their party?

[ol][*]Could one of the two go third party? Especially if the superdelagtes determine the nominee?[*]Are they going to waste away alot of their resources fighting for the nomination?[*]Will this fragment their party?[/ol]
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:33 AM   #2
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WE NEED A 3RD PARTY, OR NO PARTY. The main thing is to get the party out that is in now, before we have a deppression or stock crash or worse, a real war.
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I like the idea of Hillary or Obama running third party. Then we could choose between 3 liberal democrats in the general election.[:'(]
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:02 PM   #4
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You think with every thing going on with their fight to find a Candidate you might see a implsotion in their party?
[ol][*]Could one of the two go third party? Especially if the superdelagtes determine the nominee?[*]Are they going to waste away alot of their resources fighting for the nomination?[*]Will this fragment their party?[/ol]
I'm enjoying this years race. It's been fun watching the racist and sexistparty finally showing their racism and sexism. They are so quick to acuse the Republicans of being racist (which we aren't, not y a long shot), but they are and have always been racist.

If anything, the smart blacks just might wake up and see the dems for what there are and begin to look else where.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:58 PM   #5
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Yeah, who are the racists? 90% plus of blacks are voting for Obama, and whites are split nearly 50/50.

What I find ironic and humorous is how they are back at it trying to change the rules of the game after it is well underway. Remember in 2000, Catherine Harris had to certify the election in Florida by some deadline, and democrats wanted her to ignore that rule? Remember how they suddenly wanted the popular vote to determine the winner of the election after the fact instead of the electoral vote? Now some in Clinton's camp want to change the rules on seating the delegates in Florida and Michigan (where she won), while Obama's camp wants to change the rules on the superdelegates' latitude to vote (since the current way might bode well for Hillary). Love it when the democrats change rules and retroactively apply them to their advantage!
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Why do I get the feeling that if a woman votes for Clinton or a black for Obama, that automatically qualifies them as a sexist or a racist? I do not think that's the case; in fact, I think it's been pointed out pretty clearly already by others on this forum that black people didn't rush out to support former black presidential candidates like Jesse Jackass (and we even have a black candidate on the Republican side this year . . . I don't see him hoarding the black vote).

Anyway, as for the original questions, I think no, no and no. I think it's more likely that they would wind up as running mates than opponents in the November election. Exit polls have shown that the Democrats aren't as likely to be dissatisfied with their nominee, regardless of who it may be, as the Republicans are. As far as resources, I think Obama has shown that fundraising isn't likely to be an issue for him. I doubt it would be for Clinton, either, considering that Hollywood and much of the rest of the nation's elite are ready to whip out their checkbooks for the Democrat nominee. There again, I think it's more likely that McCain (considering his already limited resources) will run into financial problems in the campaign than Obama or Clinton.
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:12 PM   #7
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My point wasn't that all blacks are racist, etc. It is merely that Jacka$$ and Sharpton want us to believe white people are racist, when in fact you could make a better case against blacks. Clearly, racism implies white people would not vote for a black person because he's black. The mere fact Obama won white states speaks volumes about how non-racist white people are on the whole.

In fact, I would vote for Alan Keyes in a heartbeat if I thought he had a shot!

Back to the question of the thread. I think they will unite to some degree, but Hillary isn't used to losing so it will be interesting to see how she will take it if she does lose.

I think if Obama wins, he'll be at a huge disadvantage in the general election simply because people are only hearing about change and a new America, and haven't seen the specifics of his socialist plans (tax hikes, redistribution of wealth, etc.). In the general election, all of these tough questions will have to be answered and people will see the real impact of his plans.
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Why do I get the feeling that if a woman votes for Clinton or a black for Obama, that automatically qualifies them as a sexist or a racist? I do not think that's the case; in fact, I think it's been pointed out pretty clearly already by others on this forum that black people didn't rush out to support former black presidential candidates like Jesse Jackass (and we even have a black candidate on the Republican side this year . . . I don't see him hoarding the black vote).
My post had nothing to do with who they are voting for. It doesn't surprise me the way the numbers are falling out. Blacks would normally share other things in common with ech other so do women. That's human nature. What I'm loving are the racist and sexist statements that are being said about the whole thing. I have to agree with Rush, the Dems are the ones whole always have to point out color and sex. They always have to make a special note of it and anylize everything from a racial/sexist class. People aren't allowed to stand on their own record.
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I've noticed a trickle of Democrats going over to the Green Party, but I really don't think the rank and file are that interested in splitting. They'll probably stay Democrats and try to shuffle the leadership, or maybe just go Independent and vote Democrat.

I think they tend toview a party split as a badthing, quite unlike some Republicans.
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My point wasn't that all blacks are racist, etc.Â*
Doug, to be honest, my post was directed at Fieldmouse. You posted while I was typing.
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