... at the number of people here who support "the right of the people to keep and bear arms," but believe that we really aren't competent to do so, and that the right should be restricted.
Looks like some serious cognitive dissonance to me.
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... at the number of people here who support "the right of the people to keep and bear arms," but believe that we really aren't competent to do so, and that the right should be restricted.
Looks like some serious cognitive dissonance to me.
It's a simple fact that most people, including most Americans, lack the warrior mentality. Yes, we should have our guns. But the truth is that most people don't know how to use them to their full potential.
Once again, I think it's better to take our chances with ill-prepared concealed carriers than well-prepared mass murderers...
Everyone drives a car, yet not everyone is competent to do so either. There's no explicit constitutional protection for your right to drive. Cars are more dangerous than guns. That cognitive dissonance is worse than you think.
I got to an INSANELY liberal college. The student body is made up mostly of pot heads. They have open smoke-outs quite frequently in the middle of campus, and everyone is usually still drunk friday morning. The police, of course, arrest them for this all the time. The students were enlightened to the second amendment. So, they started a second amendment group on campus. Why? Well, there's every kind of group on that campus. So why not add another. They wanted to have the right to organize a student militia on campus and have students carry arms; handguns, shot guns, whatever they had, for the protection of the students of course. They published an article in the newspaper, both to local town paper and the school's paper and soon it got picked up on larger papers.
Sounds good right? A few students at a liberal college coming over to the dark side in support of arms? Yeah... right. Keep dreaming. You want to know why they wanted this? They wanted to "protect the student body from the campus police department who are time and time again harassing students for taking place in peaceful marijauna protests and be able to draw arms against them should they feel so inclined" Now I don't know about you Daddyslittlegirl, but I don't want guns in the hands of those people. I don't want them shooting me because I'm republican, or because I disagree with what they're doing. They're no better than a gang at that point.
What irks me is that they were trying to manipulate the legal road to satisfy their own little devious plot paved with hidden agendas. Thanks very much to them there will probably never be guns on my campus, legally anyway, and I'd rather keep them out of their hands. One less drug dealer with a weapon is fine for me.
However, I will fight to keep mine, and those that should have theirs. Its one thing to get a pistol permit, but for a conceal carry I believe you should have to pass a psych test and do the equivalent to police training with the weapon. What would it hurt? People would be more educated, they'd get in more range time with a weapon they hopefully never have to fire, and they would feel safer and maybe be able to react calmer in an environment when bullets are already flying.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying restrict anything, all I'm saying is education. We have to take hunter's education to be sure of our targets when we start out as little hunters, why not be taught how to be sure of a target with a handgun when we may have to use it in a stressful situation? I know lots of people who can't have other people watch them shoot because its "stressful," and have trouble getting a shot to hit the paper. Can you imagine if this person had to react under real pressure?
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Its one thing to get a pistol permit, but for a conceal carry I believe you should have to pass a psych test and do the equivalent to police training with the weapon. What would it hurt?
It would insult the Second Amendment. I agree that training is a good thing, but I think a citizen's right to bear arms trumps a government's concern over such training. Personally, I think long-term repetitive practice at the range is better to one's self-defense technique than a singletraining module (or even several of them).
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Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying restrict anything, all I'm saying is education. We have to take hunter's education to be sure of our targets when we start out as little hunters, why not be taught how to be sure of a target with a handgun when we may have to use it in a stressful situation? I know lots of people who can't have other people watch them shoot because its "stressful," and have trouble getting a shot to hit the paper. Can you imagine if this person had to react under real pressure?
Maybe I'm wrong here, but everyconcealed carrier I've ever known enjoys guns regardless of self-defense considerations. They take training and practice very seriously.
I got to an INSANELY liberal college. The student body is made up mostly of pot heads. They have open smoke-outs quite frequently in the middle of campus, and everyone is usually still drunk friday morning. The police, of course, arrest them for this all the time. The students were enlightened to the second amendment. So, they started a second amendment group on campus. Why? Well, there's every kind of group on that campus. So why not add another. They wanted to have the right to organize a student militia on campus and have students carry arms; handguns, shot guns, whatever they had, for the protection of the students of course. They published an article in the newspaper, both to local town paper and the school's paper and soon it got picked up on larger papers.
Sounds good right? A few students at a liberal college coming over to the dark side in support of arms? Yeah... right. Keep dreaming. You want to know why they wanted this? They wanted to "protect the student body from the campus police department who are time and time again harassing students for taking place in peaceful marijauna protests and be able to draw arms against them should they feel so inclined" Now I don't know about you Daddyslittlegirl, but I don't want guns in the hands of those people. I don't want them shooting me because I'm republican, or because I disagree with what they're doing. They're no better than a gang at that point.
What irks me is that they were trying to manipulate the legal road to satisfy their own little devious plot paved with hidden agendas. Thanks very much to them there will probably never be guns on my campus, legally anyway, and I'd rather keep them out of their hands. One less drug dealer with a weapon is fine for me.
However, I will fight to keep mine, and those that should have theirs. Its one thing to get a pistol permit, but for a conceal carry I believe you should have to pass a psych test and do the equivalent to police training with the weapon. What would it hurt? People would be more educated, they'd get in more range time with a weapon they hopefully never have to fire, and they would feel safer and maybe be able to react calmer in an environment when bullets are already flying.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying restrict anything, all I'm saying is education. We have to take hunter's education to be sure of our targets when we start out as little hunters, why not be taught how to be sure of a target with a handgun when we may have to use it in a stressful situation? I know lots of people who can't have other people watch them shoot because its "stressful," and have trouble getting a shot to hit the paper. Can you imagine if this person had to react under real pressure?
We practice a LOT, with handguns and long guns. I'm pretty sure I could react appropriately in a "stress" situation. Blood does not bother me and the thought of killing someone who is threatening my life doesn't bother me either.
I remember when I got my deer last year. (Couldn't hunt this year because of Miriam.) I was completely calm before and after the shot. My husband calls it my inscrutable orientalness.
I agree with youthat people with a permit should be training more after they get the permit. And the initial training course could be stronger also with more range time. (I took the course even though I'm not old enough for a permit. I thought it was too easy.)
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I'm all for the legal right to carry a concealed weapon anywhere. I take notice to the signs on some of the buildings I enter that have it stated concealed fire arms prohibited.
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how many times have you been around some weirdo with a gun? I was raised hunting, and was preached to about safety, but I've run into those types who never were brought up this way and when they turned 18 or 21 they got a gun because it was cool, and they could....and even though it may not have been loaded, wave it around the house etc.... like a gangster, these are the people who need a hunter safety class, or just firearm safety class. Course I'm not sure there's anyway you can make someone understand how important it is to be safe, etc...figure that one out and let's require that!
I am REALLY and TRULY amazed...
