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Old 02-12-2008, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default john McCain and his pro gun voting

i was doing some checking into the candidates for the election.
John McCain seems to be pro gun pro gun owner on every vote and every issue
The only two i saw that could be seen as anti gun is..
He voted to make gun makers include locks which i think is a great idea.
And he voted to make ffls run a purchase through a check at gun shows.
which if there going to do it at there store they should at the show.

this is a quote from McCain

Neither justice nor domestic peace are served by holding the innocent responsible for the acts of the criminal."
John McCain

vote McCain and you will keep your guns


http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/77636553-6337-4ecd-b170-49e1c07d2fbd.htm
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:44 AM   #2
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Geez did you slow down wit that post or something? Very easy to understand keep it up.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:53 AM   #3
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he aint bad on gun ....... its everything else he is I don't like
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:48 AM   #4
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Guns, he is ok. Tax, he is in the liberal crowd.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:50 AM   #5
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Tax, he is in the liberal crowd.
Not quite. The libs want the Bush tax cuts to expire, so they can rake in another $2 Trillion for wealth redistribution/vote buying.

McCain wants the Bush cuts made permanent.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:54 AM   #6
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he aint bad on gun ....... its everything else he is I don't like
EVERYTHING, Big D? I thought you were a Pro-Life guy. If so, McCain is a pro-life as anybody in the race.
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true ipscshooter - maybe there is more to McCain than I give credit, but right now, I have no like for the man and consider him a conservative Democrat at best in Liberal Republican clothes
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McCain is bad, Bad, BAD on national sovereignty. He wants that 12 Million person foreign national occupying force to stay.

Then again, maybe he's just a realist. Realizing that an occupation force over six (6) time larger than the entire US military means that the war is over, and they have won.

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Old 02-12-2008, 11:39 AM   #9
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McCain is bad, Bad, BAD on national sovereignty. He wants that 12 Million person foreign national occupying force to stay.

Then again, maybe he's just a realist. Realizing that an occupation force over six (6) time larger than the entire US military means that the war is over, and they have won.
Occupying forces have uniforms,guns, command and control structures, etc. If you insist on using inflammatory vocabulary, how about"squatters"?

Choose your terminology carefully.
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McCain is bad, Bad, BAD on national sovereignty. He wants that 12 Million person foreign national occupying force to stay.

Then again, maybe he's just a realist. Realizing that an occupation force over six (6) time larger than the entire US military means that the war is over, and they have won.
Occupying forces have uniforms,guns, command and control structures, etc. If you insist on using inflammatory vocabulary, how about"squatters"?

Choose your terminology carefully.
They do in fact occupy this country....consider:
a: they undercut 'traditional labor' payment rates to monopolize certain industries
b: they avail themselves of our resources and services without regard for participation in
payment for those resources and services
c: they are flexing political power in certain areas of the country to make citizen populations
conform to foreign language and customs
d: they readily fly their 'foreign' flag over the Stars-n-Stripes
e: they refuse to assimilate, occupying enclaves of same-language, same-culture populations
which exclude outsiders (specifically "Anglos")


So, they're attempting to control the labor force, the economy, the language, the prices of
goods and services, and they monopolize social services to the detriment of the paying public,
either purposely or not.

Is that not an occupier ? Are we so pusillanimous as to be afraid to assign a name to some
such phenomenon if it's to 'offend' someone ? Is an occupying force armed, by definition ?
I think it perfectly accurate to call certain parts of the American Southwest as "Mexican Occupied"
territory, by virtue of the fact that Mexicans came illegally, and carved a living from this 'foreign'
country despite the illegality of their actions and the wishes of the people, and the fact that their
presense here is in itself contrary to American Law.
(it IS a stretch, admittedly, but IMO, it's less a stretch than the term 'squatter' which, by definition:

Main Entry: 2squatter
Function:nounDate: 1788 :one that squats: as a:one that settles on property without right or title or payment of rent b:one that settles on public land under government regulation with the purpose of acquiring title

They're not squatters, IMO, if they seek political power and attempt to countermand U.S. law by
DEMANDING social services they do not pay for.

Is there another word, perhaps ? Are we caught up in semantics ? Seems to me when they flood across the border, take jobs and services and refuse to leave, they're occupiers.
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