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Old 02-06-2008, 06:52 PM   #1
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Tell me in your own words why murder is stigmatized as it is. What makes it natural to certain crittersbut repulsive to man?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:24 PM   #2
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Because those certain critters are animals and it's called the food chain, that's how they survive.

Humans murdering other humans serves no legitimate purpose. Was this a serious question?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:47 PM   #3
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aught six may be in one of those moods....
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:50 PM   #4
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lets kill aught and see how he likes it...just kidding, just kidding, but not a whole lot of other animals regularly kill each other and then just the the body sit there. usually they eat it, servin a purpose. now in our case, we have plenty of food, and klling some1 is still "OK" if it is self defense. Dont go eating anybody now i said that tho
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(CNN) -- Fishermen in Bangladesh beat a rare river dolphin to death because they had not seen "this kind of creature before," according to local news accounts.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/01/30/bangladesh.dolphin/index.html#cnnSTCText

The fishermen then tried to sell the body of the Ganges River dolphin as a rare fish. When they failed, the men gave up and dumped it outside a museum -- where a large crowd tried to catch a peek...

...ohhhh uhhh ohhhmy Gudd, those crazy Bangadudes....
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:07 PM   #6
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Because those certain critters are animals and it's called the food chain, that's how they survive.

Humans murdering other humans serves no legitimate purpose. Was this a serious question?
Of course it's a serious question. I'm interested in hearing what you guys have to say on a variety of issues. That's the basis of discussion. Understand and try to be understood.

You used 'legitimate' to qualify your statement. But what if something is legitimate to one person but not another? What about the pro vs. con in the death penalty issue? If execution is not murder simply because it's sanctioned by law? Seems to me that killing someone against his or her will is the same no matter what we call it.

But I'm not here to argue for against one thing or another. I guess I just want to hear you define the act for yourself. I can think of a number of reasons, but I want to hear about the ones that matter to you.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:09 PM   #7
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Dont go eating anybody now i said that tho
It's really tough nowadays to know where people have been...
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some kill for sex....[&:]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328485,00.html

Police say a man charged in the shooting deaths of his stepmother and half-sister told them he had sex with his stepmother's corpse.[:'(]
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Humans 'murder' all the time. Off the top of my head, I can't think of one omnivore that doesn't kill. Of course, some peanut head will say that 'murder' is the premeditated homocide of one's own species.

For instance...

Humans are the only species that seemingly kill for fun. On the other hand, most of the serial murderers of the world started out killing small animals. But how many of us (on just this forum) have spent a day afield, killing woodchucks or ground squirrels, pretty much just for fun? Sure, we can justify that they pose a threat to livestock and machinery, but most people enjoy the pure satisfaction of killing a relatively harmless rodent---to eliminate the weaker species.

There is a fine line between "killing" and "murder", and that must be realized. Murder is considered a heinous crime because it is impossible to understand a murderer's psyche. Physical and emotional 'indicators' may exist as to what triggered the behavior, but nobody understands why a murderer enjoys the crime, and that scares the bejesus out of people.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:38 PM   #10
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Is it only murder if it is against the same species?

We kill deer, rodents, insects, etc...but murder each other.

A wolf kills deer but when a wolf kills another wolf do they murder that wolf? Or when a deer or elk kills another deer or elk in a fight over a doe or cow. Is that murder. They certainly don't think twice about it even though animals do have some emotional responses, some very strong emotional responses in some species.

Or is murder just a made up word to condition ourselves to believe that "murder" is heinous?




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