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Old 01-29-2008, 07:30 PM   #1
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Default McCain takes Florida

Interesting times. The post morten on the vote for this maverick will be interesting. Tuesday will tell.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:49 PM   #2
 
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I think McCain has it pretty well wrapped up at this point. If Huckabee would drop out, it would boost Romney's chances, but McCain's going to be tough to stop now.

I guess we'd better start practicing the phrase "Madam President." With the Democrats apparently set to nominate such a polarizing figure, there should be no excuse for the GOP not to win the presidency this fall. But instead, the Republicans appear to be set to sell out conservatives.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:59 PM   #3
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BenGarrett,

I think you are wrong. I don't like McCain, but I will vote for him. Perfection is the enemy of a viable
political party. I also fear that this is the beginning of the end for conservatism in the Republican
party, which bothers me. But in the end most conservatives will hold their nose and vote for McCain,
especially if Hillary is on the other side. "Independents" are a growing part of the vote, and they like
McCain. Even though McCain is only a slightly more liberal version of President Bush, many
"independents" who would not even consider voting for Bush will vote for McCain. He will also attract
some from the Libertarian camp as he is not seen as quite a polarizing figure on issues of "civil liberties."

We will see if McCain throws some redmeat to conservatives. He should due to turnout issues, but
I don't see him doing it. It's not his style, plus Hillary will guarantee the turnout for McCain. [8D]

Romney just isn't getting it done on the connecting with the voters/authenticity thing.
Does that matter to me? No. I don't think my President should be the person I want to most drink a beer
with. But does that matter to my wife and emotional in-laws? Yes. Will that matter in a bruising battle
against the Clinton machine? Yes.
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:05 PM   #4
 
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I'm glad the kennedy conservative is out.Romney is the biggest joke ever to hit the republican party,#2 is Mcamnesty.

I hope these two gun grabbers keep fighting it out and some real sportsmen and gun owners start realizing what is happening and send Huckabee some money so he can win the nomination.


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Old 01-29-2008, 08:17 PM   #5
 
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smalljaw, I think Huckabee is pretty much toast. Regardless of what Rush Limbaugh thinks, I believe Huckabee was more conservative than any of the "major" Republican candidates besides Fred Thompson, but he's just not getting the conservative vote. It's been all about the evangelical vote for him, and he can't win on that alone.

Lebeauhunter, I hope you're right. I'd rather see McCain than Clinton, although McCain is dead last on the list of Republican candidates as far as who I'd vote for. But I cannot and will not for for McCain. We'll see how many others feel the same way. I agree that he will pull a lot of independent votes; probably more than any Republican candidate since Reagan. But I think energizing the conservative base is going to be much more important this election than stealing the votes of independents who are afraid to vote for Clinton.
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:37 PM   #6
 
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I think another problem that John McCain will have is that by November he will be 72 years old and looks every day of it. Hillary Clinton's relative youth andbetter health could appeal to many Independents inour youth oriented culture who may not have any particular animus against her and are concerned that McCain just maynot be up to the demands of thejob of Presidentover the next fout to eight years.

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Old 01-29-2008, 08:42 PM   #7
 
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smalljaw, I think Huckabee is pretty much toast. Regardless of what Rush Limbaugh thinks, I believe Huckabee was more conservative than any of the "major" Republican candidates besides Fred Thompson, but he's just not getting the conservative vote. It's been all about the evangelical vote for him, and he can't win on that alone.

Lebeauhunter, I hope you're right. I'd rather see McCain than Clinton, although McCain is dead last on the list of Republican candidates as far as who I'd vote for. But I cannot and will not for for McCain. We'll see how many others feel the same way. I agree that he will pull a lot of independent votes; probably more than any Republican candidate since Reagan. But I think energizing the conservative base is going to be much more important this election than stealing the votes of independents who are afraid to vote for Clinton.
Sure Huckabee can still win,if you vote for him in a few days and try to get everyone you know to vote for him.

The republican party is being hijacked by Rush and his types,and big money.Rush and Romney are not Reagan conservatives,not now,not ever.

For the sake of you'r firearms i hope you will help everyone in Tn. to learn facts other than what some talk show hosts are spewing,they sold us out in 1996 and they are doing it now.

By the way,Oneida Tn. is a great place,i know several people there.
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:42 PM   #8
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To me Romney comes across as phoney as a three dollar bill.Never mind that he is from PRMA where onlyliberals can become governor.
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To me Romney comes across as phoney as a three dollar bill.Never mind that he is from PRMA where onlyliberals can become governor.
How does someone who cowrites Romneycare and very proud of it,or says assault weapons? are only used for "hunting down and killing people",or someone that makes taxpayers pay all but $50.00 for an abortion even get in the republican nomination candidates? $$$$$$


$50.00 wont even pay for a decent piece of china crap that Bain capital owns
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:27 PM   #10
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I think McCain has it pretty well wrapped up at this point. If Huckabee would drop out, it would boost Romney's chances, but McCain's going to be tough to stop now.

I guess we'd better start practicing the phrase "Madam President." With the Democrats apparently set to nominate such a polarizing figure, there should be no excuse for the GOP not to win the presidency this fall. But instead, the Republicans appear to be set to sell out conservatives.
Ben, I think this is all for the best. My Magic 8 Ball won't give me a consistent answer, but I believe if it turns out to be Clinton vs. McCain, the Religious Right could in its entirety sit out the election and he'd still win. There are a lot of moderate-right Independents out there who don't care for the likes of Romney or Huckabee. Both parties must get back towards the center or else risk losing widespreadnational support. Hatred of Washington has become a national pasttime.

McCain has the maverick reputation and a variety of foreign policy work under his belt. I think he will end up being the logical choice for many people.
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